[AT] Tractor shop question

Tue Jan 23 04:07:32 PST 2018

I have a lot of those parts in the shop.  I have ordered complete units 
to replace because I don't have the time of patience to work on them.   
Then due to my packrat upbringing, I cannot throw anything away.
Cecil

On 1/22/2018 10:15 PM, Spencer Yost wrote:
> That is what happened to me. I have hundreds of o-rings, and none of them were the right size for this particular application.
>
> At some point in time you just have to decide that you need to focus on fixing tractors and not air regulators :-)  So a new regulator is on the way.
>
> Spencer Yost
>
>> On Jan 22, 2018, at 8:55 PM, John Hall <jtchall at nc.rr.com> wrote:
>>
>> Thats where I bought my set. Of course we have tons left over from
>> various projects over the years which plays in to Murphys Law,--a lot of
>> time the one you need is an odd one.
>>
>> John Hall
>>
>>
>>> On 1/22/2018 5:09 PM, Rena Glover Goss wrote:
>>> Isn't that a stock item available from Harbor Freight?
>>>
>>> Larry
>>> ---- Mogrits <mogrits at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> I thought we all had a red plastic box of all sorts of o-rings that we all
>>> called and ordered after Farmer posted about the sale his parts store had
>>> on them? I use mine quite a bit. The only O-ring I've needed that I haven't
>>> found in that kit was the O-ring for a Remington 1100- had to go to gun
>>> shop for that one.
>>>
>>> I remember calling and ordering my kit. The clerk said he was having a hard
>>> time understanding why he was suddenly getting calls and orders from all
>>> over the country for that O-ring set.
>>>
>>> Warren
>>>
>>>> On Sun, Jan 21, 2018 at 11:25 PM, Bill Brueck <b2 at chooka.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Spencer, McMaster has O-rings that you order by composition, thickness, and
>>>> diameter.  I've found them to be the go-to source when I don't find the
>>>> right sized ring in my miscellaneous collection, most memorably for a
>>>> pressure washer, after wasting a few stops at auto supply stores trying to
>>>> find something to fit.   www.mcmaster.com
>>>>
>>>> B²
>>>> Bill Brueck
>>>> Pine Island, MN
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
>>>> [mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of Spencer Yost
>>>> Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2018 10:33 AM
>>>> To: Antique tractor email discussion group <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: [AT] Tractor shop question
>>>>
>>>> The regulator is brand new.   So it never worked at all - yesterday was
>>>> first install.
>>>>
>>>> I took it apart and tried to find broken/missing/incorrectly installed
>>>> parts
>>>> but could not find anything.  The only thing I could find was an O ring
>>>> that
>>>> seals the plunger when the pressure is "just right". The O ring sits in a
>>>> groove but  I think it is too thin and does not exceed the depth of the
>>>> groove.
>>>>
>>>> When you turn the pressure all the way off the plunger will sit with enough
>>>> pressure as to not leak. But just to soon as you start let some air in,
>>>> you're done.  I have an awesome collection of O-rings but I had nothing
>>>> that
>>>> would work. Every one I had in that diameter  were all too thick and
>>>> Clearly would not regulate pressure well, if at all, at lower pressures.
>>>>
>>>> Improper part pulling (wrong 'O' ring) at the factory is my diagnosis.
>>>>
>>>> Time for a new regulator/filter because I am not going to waste time and
>>>> gas
>>>> hunting O-rings.   I can take the guts out and just use the filter part of
>>>> it.   That way I only have to buy a regulator. But filter/regulator combos
>>>> are so cheap and inexpensive relative to a regulator it's hard to justify
>>>> going through the extra plumbing and mounting hassle.
>>>>
>>>> Good thing my mother-in-law got me an the Amazon card for my birthday.
>>>>
>>>> Spencer Yost
>>>>
>>>>> On Jan 20, 2018, at 6:59 PM, Carl Gogol <cgogol at twcny.rr.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Spencer
>>>>> I am recalling a few things regarding regulators, but this is truly a
>>>>> case where I have forgotten more than I remember.  Some types do need
>>>>> to continually bleed off, mostly in a static, no flow, condition.  You
>>>>> may specify a zero bleed regulator if you are buying them in quantity.
>>>>> But many regulators can't bleed because of the nature of the fluid it
>>>>> is regulating; toxic, flammable, oxidizer Etc.  There are a lot of
>>>>> tradeoffs in regulator design including zero flow pressure drift, flow
>>>>> range and pressure maintenance over a wide flow range.
>>>>> Did the regulator ever work without bleeding?  Does it leak when there
>>>>> is flow?  (try listening for that when you are using an impact
>>>>> wrench.) Carl
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
>>>>> [mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of Spencer
>>>>> Yost
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2018 4:12 PM
>>>>> To: at at lists.antique-tractor.com
>>>>> Subject: [AT] Tractor shop question
>>>>>
>>>>> I have a tractor shop question. I put a new air pressure regulator on
>>>>> my air compressor, and it continually bleeds air . It's sort of like
>>>>> when you dial the pressure down and it has to bleed  air on the output
>>>>> side to bring the pressure down? Well it does this all the time. Is
>>>>> there such a thing as a continual bleed regulator? If so that seems like
>>>> a
>>>> really dumb idea.
>>>>> Otherwise it acts perfectly. It keeps the pressure exactly right and
>>>>> steady, and if I dial the pressure all the way down to zero it does
>>>>> shut the air supply completely off.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Of course I may have a defective regulator. And of course I just
>>>>> recycled the box and instructions.  I bought it about a year ago and
>>>>> just now getting around to installing it so I have no receipt nor am I
>>>>> even 100% sure where I got it.  All I remember is it was on sale (-;
>>>>>
>>>>> Spencer Yost
>>>>>
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