[AT] Clutch Shudder

[Stephen Offiler]

How about uploading the whole 3-minute video to YouTube, and then just send
the link to the people who need to see it.  If there's a particular
15-second segment you wish to call attention to, just do that by telling
them where to find it on the time scale.

SO


On Sun, Jan 21, 2018 at 8:34 PM, Cecil Bearden <crbearden at copper.net> wrote:

> I got a chance to look at my new MTZ yesterday.  I got the clutch pedal
> pulled down with a tie down strap, and stuck a big screwdriver against
> the back clutch disk.  I could move it up and down nearly 1/4 inch.
> The intermediate plate was adjusted fine.  After talking with factory
> sales mgr, and service mgr.  I will take it to a shop in western OK that
> had shown interest in MTZ tractors but had not been delivered one.  They
> assured me that they would reimburse me for all expenses in this.   The
> sales mgr is pres. of a dealership that has been in business for 136
> years. He said they changed to MTZ/Belarus when Case/IH became such a
> pain in the butt to do warranty work with.  He said there is no problem
> with Belarus, but the production engineer would like to see what I had
> filmed, and just wanted to be kept in the loop as he was going to send
> some alignment tools and could maybe give some additional information..
>
>    I made a nearly 3 minute video, but I cannot find an editor that I
> can understand how to use.   I only want to send about 15 seconds.   I
> will try tomorrow to make another one but shorter. I tried to send it to
> a dropbox for large files, and after 1 1/2 hours, it stopped and said it
> had a problem...  My video camera is too detailed for long videos.
>
> Cecil in oKla
>
>
> On 1/18/2018 11:32 PM, Cecil Bearden wrote:
> > One of the notes about possible failures in MTZ tractors is here:
> > http://www.mtzequipment.com/sites/default/files/manuals/
> learning-center/1200%20Series/POSSIBLE%20FAILURES.pdf
> > Down at the bottom it mentions a bad pilot bearing in flywheel...
> >
> > Spencer, I will check on the floating plate, there is a funny little
> > bent strap that may be what makes the floating plate separate..
> >
> > Cecil in OKla
> >
> >
> > On 1/18/2018 9:13 PM, Ralph Goff wrote:
> >> On 1/18/2018 8:07 PM, Cecil Bearden wrote:
> >>>       When actuating the clutch it will engage and as you
> >>> try to inch up to an attachment, as you feather the clutch, it works
> >>> fine, then when you totally disengage the clutch, the tractor will
> >>> shudder and jump and will run forward or back depending on the gear you
> >>> are in,
> >>> I think the only way to solve the problem is to split the tractor and
> >>> send the clutch to a good rebuilder to check the operation and the
> >>> balance. and also to check the input shafts...
> >>> Anyone experienced anything like this.?
> >> That sounds similar to a problem we had with the Cockshutt 40 about 40
> >> years or more ago. Just got the engine put back after a rebuild and
> >> right from there
> >> the clutch was bad. Step on it to dis- engage and it just dragged. Also
> >> made a horrible squealing noise. It took some time and figuring but
> >> eventually somebody
> >> figured out we had left out a shim or two at the front motor mounts.
> >> This caused binding of the clutch spline on the input shaft when it slid
> >> to engage or dis-engage.
> >> Put in the shims up front and it made all the difference.
> >>
> >> Ralph in Sask.
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