[AT] 430V mysteries

[Cecil Bearden]

Don't forget the pull type plow that had a rope to drop it into the 
ground to lift.  There was a spring loaded link that the rope was tied 
to and if the Draw pin broke, the rope would pull the spring and release 
the rope.   If you did not have a spring loaded latch, you tied a wire 
through the seat holes, and then wrapped the wire around the rope a 
couple of times to hold it, but it would pull out if the pin broke.   I 
tied one off real good on my first time with a Z Moline and 2 bottom 16 
inch plow.  The pin was a little worn and we were plowing deeper than 
normal.  I lined up with the furrow and dropped the plow.  The pin broke 
and when the rope finally broke, the seat catapulted me into the 
steering wheel and then the nylon rope hit me in the back of the head 
like a rubber band.   From then on, manila ropes were used, and only 2 
wraps with a baling wire.  Also, draw pin diameter increased from 5/8in 
to 3/4 in!!

Cecil in OKla


On 10/22/2017 8:29 PM, John Hall wrote:
> Forgot about those control ropes Farmer! I had 2 Oliver superior drills
> that used them--one was wide enough it had 2 ropes so you could lift
> only 1/2 of it. Then there was the Deere 30 pull type we had with HA-92
> power unit. The clutch rope would sometimes get hung on something in a
> curve and you could hear the load coming off the engine--rope was
> causing the clutch to slip. That was actually a fun combine to run in wheat.
>
> John Hall
>
>
> On 10/21/2017 8:37 PM, Indiana Robinson wrote:
>> In the 1940's and 1950's a lot of implements used a rope to control
>> something on them. There were a lot of trip rope plows in use. several of
>> our corn pickers had a rope to control a big flap at the top of the wagon
>> elevator to control how far back it threw the ears of corn in the wagon.
>> They also had a rope to turn the wagon elevator off and back on when making
>> a turn. A rope control was pretty standard on a pull type combine to raise
>> and lower the reel in relation to the cutter bar. The John Deere 12A
>> combine we used also had a rope to operate the clutch on the combine's %$#@
>> tiny engine. You had to fasten those ropes somewhere and it usually was to
>> the seat. You just didn't want to use too strong of a rope or if something
>> happened you could yank the seat off.  :-)
>> I am probably missing several other rope uses but it's been a very long
>> day...
>> As to the bolts, maybe the PO liked to carry two shot guns when picking
>> instead of just one...  :-)
>>
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>> On Sat, Oct 21, 2017 at 4:54 PM, Howard Weeks <weeksh at att.net> wrote:
>>
>>> My memory is a bit flaky these days but I think it was designed to hold
>>> up or tie up a 3 point center link when not in use. Also, I think I have
>>> seen a parts manual with some definition of the purpose for that bracket.
>>>
>>> My 430 has one as well.
>>>
>>> Howard in GA
>>>
>>> On 10/21/2017 2:46 PM, rdhaskell at juno.com wrote:
>>>> Looks like a mount for a light.
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>>> On Oct 21, 2017, at 4:49 AM, John Hall <jtchall at nc.rr.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Maybe the one in the hood is for a windbreaker or a extra screen or
>>>>> something to cover the grill if running in tall seeded out weeds?
>>>>>
>>>>> The seat bracket, looks factory but awful light duty for an umbrella--to
>>>>> me anyway. Was it for mounting a light?
>>>>>
>>>>> John Hall
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 10/20/2017 11:43 PM, Spencer Yost wrote:
>>>>>> I have found two things on the tractor that puzzle me. The first
>>> appears factory, the second is clearly an owner mod. Both of which I do not
>>> know the purpose for. I was hoping somebody may be able to enlighten me.
>>>>>> The first picture is of a small bracket on the seat frame. It really
>>> looks to be like an original factory spot weld. An umbrella holder?
>>>>>> The second is a bolt in the hood (pic is just one side but there's an
>>> identical one on the other side). Judging by the rub marks around them it
>>> appeared to have held something that moved quite a bit. But I can't figure
>>> out what. The only clue I have is I understand the original family I got
>>> the tractor from had an orchard.
>>>>>> I was hoping someone on the list might be able to give me some clues
>>> as to these two items.
>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Spencer Yost
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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