[AT] Hay wagon update

[Spencer Yost]

Great idea.   Instead of cutting it the entire length I wonder if simply cutting a series of the slots in the top would allow me to get penetrating fluid all the way through. I doubt it would compromise the strength that much.  I could weld them back but not sure I would even have to. I doubt it would compromise the strength as long as I kept the slots a good 6 inches from each other.  That center tube is only exposed to stretching compression forces. There's no real deflection since the weight is on the axles.

Spencer Yost

> On Nov 21, 2017, at 8:59 AM, Cecil Bearden <crbearden at copper.net> wrote:
> 
> Sportsman's Guide had a sale on those .045 thickness blades made for 
> Stainless Steel.  They came in a metal can and were less than $0.40 ea.  
> I bought 100 and later bought another 100.  I have a Dewalt cordless 18V 
> grinder that never seemed to have enough power or last long enough to 
> really cut or grind.   Dewalt now makes a 20V adapter for the 18V tools, 
> and that solved the problem.  I use that  cordless grinder at least 4 
> times a week.  With the thin blades, I just cut bolts or nuts instead of 
> worrying with the rust etc.  Unless of course it is a special place or 
> bolt..    When welding, if I need to make a small cut, I use the grinder 
> where I used the plasma cutter or torch earlier.  It makes for a much 
> better weld and a more professional look.  I also have one of those 8in 
> diameter circular saws that use the carbide tipped blade for cutting 
> steel.  That blade is expensive, and I only use it when the plasma 
> cutter is too rough.   The plasma with a guide is about as good as using 
> a metal shear when piecing together large sheets.
> 
> Cecil in Okla
> 
> 
>> On 11/21/2017 6:15 AM, Stephen Offiler wrote:
>> Speaking as a big fan of the 4-1/2" angle grinder and the .045" cutoff
>> wheels myself... Cecil's idea sounds pretty interesting to me!  I'm going
>> to file that one away for future reference.  "If it's stuck, cut it apart
>> and weld it back together later"
>> 
>> SO
>> 
>> 
>>> On Mon, Nov 20, 2017 at 8:39 PM, Cecil Bearden <crbearden at copper.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Vibration seems to always work.   If you have a jackhammer, you might
>>> try it on the sides and also on the end of the pipes.  I use a lot of 4
>>> 1/2"cutoff blades in a small grinder.   The blades are only 0.045
>>> thick.   In a good small grinder they are lethal to steel.   You could
>>> try to just slit the outside pipe and once it is apart, weld the pipe
>>> back together.  I would only weld a short spot and then go back to
>>> another spot.  I have done this in the past, it is a lot of welding, but
>>> it goes fast.
>>> 
>>> Cecil in OKla
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 11/20/2017 4:41 PM, Ken Knierim wrote:
>>>> Too bad you don't have a gravel road with chatter bumps... seems like
>>>> everything on a trailer comes loose when you rattle it across something
>>>> like that. Of course, this assumes a little higher road speed. :)
>>>> 
>>>> Ken in AZ
>>>> 
>>>>> On Mon, Nov 20, 2017 at 2:10 PM, Spencer Yost <yostsw at atis.net> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I have thought about this also, but to make this work you need to push
>>>>> down on two wheels and block/lift on one.   I have been trying to decide
>>>>> how to do this, and think I have arrived at putting the frame of a
>>> tractor
>>>>> over one wheel/beam,  block one wheel and then  push down with the
>>> bobcat
>>>>> on the third.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Lifting it up on its side and placing the rear axle between two stout
>>>>> trees  growing close to each other was suggested by one person a while
>>> back
>>>>> ago. I have been looking for those two trees all over my property but I
>>>>> have not found them yet  :-)
>>>>> 
>>>>>   If I do that would be an interesting experiment.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Spencer Yost
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Nov 20, 2017, at 12:36 PM, John Slavin <chaunceyjb at sbcglobal.net>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> Spencer:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Could you maybe jack up and put some blocks under one wheel or corner
>>> of
>>>>> the running gear and hang a weight on the other corner of the running
>>> gear
>>>>> on the same side?  I thought first about putting a big bale or
>>> something on
>>>>> the wagon, but you’d want to be careful about springing the frame of the
>>>>> wagon.  You only want to move the running gear.  If the box is still on
>>> the
>>>>> frame, you might even want to jack the box up so the twist would only
>>> be to
>>>>> the running gear.  That way you could come back every day or so and
>>> resoak
>>>>> the running gear.
>>>>>> John S.
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