[AT] Oil Vacuum- Common sense solution?

Fri May 19 17:11:47 PDT 2017

Charlie:
Should you decide to get a better resolution scope in order to save the 
copay on your next scope job, I would suggest you use CO2 to expand the 
bore tube, The Dr's now use CO2 instead of the old filtered air.  The 
air sometimes would escape into the bloodstream and create havoc when 
the bubble hit the heart.   CO2 leaves one somewhat sad when expecting 
to have a Rip-Roaring good time expelling all that air.  The CO2 just 
doesn't have that effect.
  Cecil in OKla

On 5/19/2017 6:28 PM, charlie hill wrote:
> Good deal!
>
> As for the bore scope, I have one of those things too.
> Unfortunately mine has very low resolution and sometimes
> doesn't work at all.  Probably a good thing because, as a Certified
> do it yourselfer, I was considering doing my own colonoscopy.  LOL
>
> Charlie
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mogrits
> Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 4:53 PM
> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
> Subject: Re: [AT] Oil Vacuum- Common sense solution?
>
> Thanks Charlie.
>
> I always have dawn for the reasons you mention. Also, on my trailered boat
> I leave the plug in leaving the ramp and sometimes even add water. Then I
> add Dawn and trailer the boat home. Towing sloshes the Dawn around nicely
> and when I pull the plug I get a harmless suds out the drain.
>
> Warren
>
> (As to access to places, I have an inspection camera with a 20' cable and
> it is LED lit at the tip. It was cheap from ebay or the like and since I'm
> normally working alone I set the laptop to record, do all my probing and
> filming, then take the laptop inside and watch the inspection while I enjoy
> a cold one!)
>
> On Tue, May 16, 2017 at 1:02 PM, charlie hill <charliehill at embarqmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Warren,  that is good news!
>> By the way,  I referred earlier to putting washing detergent in the
>> bilge.  Some of my friends leave some in their bilge all the time.
>> Either dry powdered detergent or something like Dawn Dish washing
>> detergent.  There are two reasons for that.  One it keeps your bilge
>> clean but also, down here on the coast at least, the Coast Guard
>> is always looking for oil sheens on the water around boats and
>> they WILL write you up for an "illegal" oil discharge if they see any
>> oil film at all.   If you happen to have some leakage in your bilge and
>> don't know it and your bilge pump comes on you will have an oil sheen
>> on the water.  The detergent breaks that oil up and prevents the sheen.
>> It's also common practice to keep a bottle of Dawn in the boat at all
>> times.
>> If you do see a sheen a quick squirt of Dawn into the water will dissipate
>> it
>> almost instantly.  No one wants to discharge oil into our water ways but
>> accidents do happen and Dawn is exactly what is used to clean up birds in
>> oil spills.
>>
>> Charlie
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Mogrits
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 11:18 AM
>> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
>> Subject: Re: [AT] Oil Vacuum- Common sense solution?
>>
>> Well, some good news...
>>
>> I got down in the bilge and started pumping out the fluid with the HF pump
>> and it turned out it's mostly (98%) just water. We fired the engines off a
>> clean can hooked to carbs and the fuel pumps had pumped out the last
>> remaining fuel sludge into the bilge, which also picked up all the small
>> drips of oil that can wind up in a bilge and it resulted in a black,
>> iridescent film on top of otherwise clean water.
>>
>> So, I now have a way to change engine oil and  my engines are actually in
>> as good a shape as I thought they were! That little pump has a lot of
>> suction.
>>
>> Warren
>>
>> On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 3:06 PM, Mogrits <mogrits at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> My engines do have the oil suction/drain tubes connected to the bottom
>>> of
>>> the sumps. Can't tell if they are in place of the plug or an accessory
>>> to
>>> them because I cannot get my noggin under there to see. I just got the
>>> engines running on a new (to me) boat with twin mercruiser 351,s. They
>>> each
>>> cranked and purred like kittens then a couple hours later I noticed what
>>> looks like about a quart of foul something like oil collected in the
>>> bilge.
>>> The nature of thru-hull fittings mean you can never drain a bilge
>>> completely dry because the tube and nut always stand above the hull
>>> surface.inside.
>>>
>>> Now, we went all over the engines without finding the source of oil, but
>>> one drain tube was secured high up while the other was lying loose, and
>>> I
>>> suspect that's the culprit.
>>>
>>> Anyway, the boats on stands in my driveway so I put a 5 gallon bucket
>>> below the drain. I'll suck the remaining oil up with the HF tool and
>>> discharge it straight through the thru-hull into the bucket. Then...I'll
>>> do
>>> all the washing and scrubbing. As it is, the amount of oil is minimal,
>> but
>>> too much for a rag to handle.
>>>
>>> Once I get everything cleaned out, I'll restart the engines and watch
>> them
>>> running for an oil leak source.
>>>
>>> Thanks for all the great help, to all who responded.
>>>
>>> Warren
>>>
>>> On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 1:11 PM, charlie hill <
>> charliehill at embarqmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Warren,  since it's your bilge you are cleaning,
>>>> dump some laundry detergent on top of the oil and let it soak,
>>>> Dump some water in the bilge and let it sit,
>>>> Use pressure from a water hose or some sort of brush that
>>>> will reach and mix it up.
>>>> Turn on the bilge pump and catch the water/oil that comes out in
>>>> a 5 gallon bucket or two.  Let the buckets sit and then skim the oil
>>>> off the top.  Oil gone, bilge clean.
>>>>
>>>> Charlie
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Mogrits
>>>> Sent: Sunday, May 14, 2017 10:38 PM
>>>> To: rlgoss at twc.com
>>>> Cc: Antique tractor email discussion group
>>>> Subject: Re: [AT] Oil Vacuum- Common sense solution?
>>>>
>>>> I just realised I was probably only replying individually to responses.
>> I
>>>> apologize for that error.
>>>>
>>>> What prompted my question was a mystery leak of oil into the bilge of a
>>>> boat. It's less than what any of our engines would hold and I'll
>> probably
>>>> try to get it out with the mighty-vac.
>>>>
>>>> I did search amazon etcin the meantime and see a lot of economical
>>>> solutions to do this task. I just thought someone might have a "farmer
>>>> approved" shortcut.
>>>>
>>>> Warren
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, May 14, 2017 at 10:13 PM, Rena Glover Goss <rlgoss at twc.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Your Mighty-Vac will work, it's just slow.  Professional shops have
>>>>> an
>>>>> electric vacuum pump for doing this job.  The one we had at the shop
>>>>> I
>>>>> worked in had a 1-quart reservoir.  I presume the ones they have for
>>>> auto
>>>>> shops are larger.  I have one of the hand pumps from Harbor Freight
>> for
>>>>> doing that on lawn mower engines.
>>>>>
>>>>> Larry
>>>>>
>>>>> ---- Mogrits <mogrits at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> This is tractor related: Does anyone have a clever way to suck oil
>>>>>> out
>>>>> of a
>>>>>> sump or other confined space where you cannot get to the drain
>>>>>> plug?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I saw a "Liquivac" device on the internet for 60.00, but I already
>>>> have
>>>>>> a
>>>>>> small "Mighty-Vac" system used for bleeding brakes and was
>>>>>> wondering
>>>> if
>>>>>> I
>>>>>> could make that work.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Anyone done this or something similar to evacuate oil? Possibly
>>>>>> even
>>>>> using
>>>>>> a shop-vac?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Warren
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