[AT] "older men" and change

[Dave]

Hi Larry, I think they only go to “Junk” if you are an “older man”. Mine come right into my inbox.
	Dave

> On Mar 31, 2017, at 1:32 PM, rlgoss at twc.com wrote:
> 
> Hey, guys.  Be careful what you use for a subject line on email.  All of a sudden the ones from Antique Tractor are ending up in my Junk Mail folder.  I suspect the reference to "older men" triggered a filter along the line.
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> 
> Larry
> ---- Stephen Offiler <soffiler at gmail.com> wrote: 
>> That's the correct formula for HP.  The problem is that it doesn't give you
> *peak* HP.  If you have the inputs to the formula (torque and RPM) then you
> must have plucked them off a spec sheet, and therefore your numbers are
> peak torque and the RPM that it happens to occur, which is typically well
> below the RPM for peak HP.
> 
> Here's a link to output curves for Honda GX 390.  Peak HP is at 3600 rpm.
> Peak torque is much lower RPM.
> 
> http://www.northerntool.com/images/downloads/charts/6066.pdf
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> 
> SO
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> 
> On Fri, Mar 31, 2017 at 12:28 PM, Mark Greer <markagreer at embarqmail.com>
> wrote:
> 
>> HP = Torque(ft-lbs) x RPM ÷ 5252
>> 
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Greg Hass <ghass at m3isp.com>
>> To: at at lists.antique-tractor.com
>> Sent: Thu, 30 Mar 2017 22:02:48 -0400 (EDT)
>> Subject: Re: [AT] "older men" and change
>> 
>> I think this is tractor related as it affects much of what we do. My 30
>> year old skid steer has been down for over a year but due to health
>> problems just got to pulling the engine yesterday. It is a Honda 24 hp.
>> engine I put in less than 200 hours ago. At one third throttle it will
>> go through a quart of oil in 5 minutes. I think the seal behind the
>> flywheel came out but have not torn it down yet. Last night just for the
>> heck of it I looked in the northern tool catalog I recently got to see
>> what a new engine would cost. NONE of the engines are listed by
>> horsepower but by cc. and torque. Well I know that means something to
>> somebody but not me. I have better things to do (a nap comes to mind)
>> than try and convert those figures. Also, I'm not sure of conversions;
>> for instance, my Farmall Cub is rated at 10 hp. and is a c60 running at
>> 1800 RPM. The Cub power unit on our IH 64 combine was also a c60 but ran
>> at 2900 RPM giving it about 18 hp. so I'm not sure you can go by
>> displacement. HP rating have worked for a hundred years why change now.
>> Call on a new tractor and they will give you engine horse; that may be
>> all and good but only drawbar horse will tell me how many plows I can
>> pull. A couple of years ago my brother bought a 10,000 watt generator.
>> He got it home a fueled it up and was test running it when he happened
>> to glance at the box it came in. In big letters it said 10,000 watts,
>> but in small print under that it said starting watts. Also in small
>> print it said 8000 watts running. Turns out when the salesman was
>> showing the forklift driver which generator to load he just looked at
>> the top number and took that one . My brother had already used it so now
>> he is stuck. Have we reached the point where all people can do is
>> deceive us?  Old man rant over.
>>         Greg Hass
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