[AT] IH 2504

Fri Jun 16 05:54:03 PDT 2017

Back when my Dad was still active.  He & I had worked together at 
everything for over 50 years.  I cannot think of one project I had that 
he was not involved in.  ( I was extremely lucky!!)  We hauled an 1850 
Oliver tractor 75 miles between farms on a 24ft Gooseneck trailer behind 
a 1975 Chevrolet C1500.  I should add that the trailer had brakes, but 
they were not hooked up.  The trailer had mobile home axles and the 
tires then were not the best.  We could change a tire and be back on the 
road in less than 5 minutes.

I one time had to haul 35 round bales 100 miles to Western Oklahoma on a 
45ft tandem dual trailer behind my 2000 Chevy gasoline 1 ton.  I decided 
at the last minute to take the portable compressor and air breakdown & 
tire changing tools along.  I also loaded 2 spare tire/wheels.  In the 
first 30 miles we had a flat and changed the tire & wheel.  In another 
30 miles the outside dual was not the same size as the inside and the 
tire came apart.  The remaining wheel center was not large enough to fit 
over the hub.  There is a 0.050 difference between hub centered and stud 
centered wheels.  We broke the spare down and mounted it on to the old 
wheel on the highway shoulder.

The buyer was following behind us.  When we arrived he remarked he had 
never seen tires mounted so quickly even in the tire shop.

When everyone in the crew knows their job and have the ability to move 
without  pain,  it is amazing how quickly a job can be accomplished.

Cecil in OKla

On 6/16/2017 6:12 AM, charlie hill wrote:
> When I was in high school a bunch of us from FFA and our advisor went away
> to
> summer camp.  It was about 6 hours away in the NC mountains.  The advisor
> drove
> and one of the dads drove and then the car I rode in belonged to the father
> of
> one of the class seniors and he was allowed to drive.  We were the last in
> the 3 car
> caravan, driving on an interstate highway with no means of communication
> with the
> other cars (1967).   We realized we had a recap coming off of the right rear
> tire.
> We had no idea where we were and knew that the other cars might not miss us
> for
> some ways and then would have to find an exit to get off and come back.  We
> were
> able to drive a ways further so we were planning our tire change "pit stop".
> We pulled over, stopped
> all 6 of us farm boys jumped out each with a general idea of what task we
> would do.
> In about 3 minutes if that long as I remember it, we were rolling again and
> were coming up on the
> next exit when we met the other two cars coming back to find us.  Then we
> had to pull over
> and wait for them to get turned around and get back up to us.
>
> Very few forces on earth can exceed the skills of 6 farm boys on a mission,
> fueled by fear of
> getting lost, being late for a week or fun and/or disappointing their
> elders!  LOL
>
> Charlie
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Herb Metz
> Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2017 6:53 AM
> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
> Subject: Re: [AT] IH 2504
>
> Spencer, had to laugh at your "I got really fast at reseating the arm on the
> side of the road"; reminded me of our old 1936 Chevy car had some crud in
> the gas tank and occasionally when fuel amount got low the crud would lodge
> over the supply outlet and car would stop because of no gas. So, take wrench
> from drivers side, get out, loosen gas cap, open right side of hood, use
> wrench to remove gas line from back of carburetor, reach body down to blow
> air back through gas supply line to dislodge crud particle from over gas
> line in the tank, reinstall gas line to carburetor, close right side of
> hood, tighten gas cap, get in, and go again.  Problem seldom occurred if gas
> tank  supply was >half tank.  We get to where we could do that with dress
> clothes not getting soiled. Herb(GA)
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Spencer Yost
> Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 11:23 PM
> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
> Subject: Re: [AT] IH 2504
>
> Surprised it ran much at all.   I had a kinda similar issue with a 70s  Ford
> engine in a 78 Courier pickup (not the Mazda engine).  Had an overhead cam
> and floating rocker arms that relied strictly on tight clearances to stay in
> place on its pivot point.   One arm was getting worn to the point that once
> the engine got hot enough one of the arms would occasionally fall off.
>
> I got really fast at reseating the arm on the side of the road. (-;
>
> Good luck and keep us up to date.
>
> Spencer Yost
>
>> On Jun 14, 2017, at 11:03 PM, Dennis Johnson <moscowengnr at outlook.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Last week I was at my Oklahoma cabin and finally figured out what was
>> going on with my IH 2504. It would run for a few minutes until things
>> warmed up, and then loose power and die. It was progressively getting
>> worse. It acted like it was running out of fuel. Would set a minute, and
>> then restart for a little, and die again. I thought it was a fuel issue,
>> but gravity seldom fails and I had took settling bowl and card apart and
>> all looked acceptable.
>> It finally dawned on me that I had a valve issue, and intake valve was
>> heating up and holding open enough to ruin the vacuum where it would not
>> suck fuel mixture into engine. Was not able to check compression because
>> my special sockets were in my Texas shop.
>> Got some "charity case" Isuzu put together to clear my cabin garage (out
>> temporarily-it is missing compression so I will need to pull head and fix
>> valves) Then I drove the tractor in and pulled the head on it. Bit of a
>> pain to do with loader on it.
>> Findings were:
>> #1 - bent pushrods was off of the rocker, so intake would not open and
>> cylinder not firing.
>> #2 - significant exhaust valve leak
>> #3 & #4 - valves hold gas in head, probably adjustment was out on one or
>> both.
>> Exhaust and Intake manifold was missing about 1/8" of casting on the #1
>> port.
>> Head now at machine shop, and replacement manifold and gaskets are
>> ordered.
>> I need to work on throttle linkage - it is stuck in one position and will
>> not move. Also need to install some working and readable gauges.
>> Hopefully I can get head back and parts in so that I can  next time I go
>> to cabin. Need to fine torque for head bolts, and valve adjustment values.
>> I need to remember to get my old oversized plug sockets - plugs look
>> larger than the normal 13/16" hex size. Only needed to use these special
>> sockets once every 10 or 15 years, so I hope I can find them.
>>
>> Dennis
>>
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