[AT] Sorry for the OT post...

[Dick Day]

No, the carb is still in the box.  Everything pointed to a bad pump.

It started right up and ran just like it did when I bought it.  The engine
sounded great, no signs that it was about to explode.



On Tue, Jul 18, 2017 at 12:26 PM, charlie hill <charliehill at embarqmail.com>
wrote:

> Dick, did you try the new carburetor?
>
> How did the engine run with the new pump on it before it
> blew?
>
> Charlie
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dick Day
> Sent: Monday, July 17, 2017 6:44 PM
> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
> Subject: Re: [AT] Sorry for the OT post...
>
> Mike, no mud daubers. In the Fall, I run some of that Briggs pump
> antifreeze through it and then store the pump in the heated shop.  Plus,
> this was the second pump.  Champion (great folks), without me even asking
> for it, sent me an email saying one had been shipped and to let them know
> how it went with the new pump.
>
> Tonight I survey the wreckage :)
>
> On Mon, Jul 17, 2017 at 5:04 PM, Mike M <meulenms at gmx.com> wrote:
>
> > Dick, is the oil cap that came flying off threaded? damaged? I'm trying
> > to think of what would cause so much crankcase pressure!! Do you have
> > mud daubers?
> >
> > I have had my pump (not engine) turn hard when I didn't use the
> > winterizer, even though I store my power washer in the basement. I
> > attributed it to our hard water leaving calcium deposits. After lubing
> > it up, it worked fine. I now use the winterizer  every year and have had
> > no problems.
> >
> > Mike M
> >
> >
> > On 7/17/2017 5:25 PM, Dick Day wrote:
> > > So... is there a chance the engine is still salvageable?   No parts
> > laying
> > > around, just the plastic oil fill threaded plug.  It all happened so
> > fast.
> > > My wife and I both smelled something burning but saw no flames.  The
> > engine
> > > shut down and 2 seconds later the oil fill plug shot about 2 feet from
> > the
> > > engine and oil went a good 15 feet.   I let it cool down outside and
> > rolled
> > > it back into the shop.  I am semi-retired and only work Mondays &
> > Tuesdays,
> > > so Wednesday I plan on removing the pump, draining the oil through a
> > > fine
> > > screen. If I don't see any pieces in the oil, I'll fill it back up and
> > see
> > > if it will run without the pump on.
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > On Mon, Jul 17, 2017 at 4:19 PM, Dick Day <dickday0 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >> Correct, the pto shaft on the engine.
> > >>
> > >> On Fri, Jul 14, 2017 at 9:35 AM, Stephen Offiler <soffiler at gmail.com>
> > >> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Dick, to clarify, you said "I did notice that the pto shaft that the
> > pump
> > >>> attaches to was so hot I could not even touch it."   You DO mean the
> > motor
> > >>> shaft, right?  Not the pump?
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> SO
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 9:26 PM, Dick Day <dickday0 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>> I'm desperate.  Last year I bought a fairly large power washer.
> > 4200psi
> > >>>> 3.5gpm.  It has a 389cc gas engine. It ran great, we used it a lot.
> > In
> > >>> the
> > >>>> Fall, I removed the pump and stored it the heated shop for the
> > >>>> winter.
> > >>>> Over the winter, I converted it to also run on LP.  In the dead of
> > >>> winter,
> > >>>> I wheeled it outside and it fired right up.  I put it away until the
> > >>>> spring.  I put the pump back on and decided to clean the siding on
> > >>>> the
> > >>> back
> > >>>> of the house.  It started right up. The second I squeeze the
> trigger,
> > it
> > >>>> runs really bad.  Let go of the trigger and it's fine.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I put some gas in it and now it also runs really bad when engaging
> > >>>> the
> > >>>> pump.  If I remove the pump, it starts and runs great on both LP and
> > >>> gas.
> > >>>> The LP conversion consisted of removing the air filter, installing
> > >>> longer
> > >>>> bolts and mounting an LP collar between the carb and the air filter.
> > >>>> Nothing was modified.  I've done several LP conversions and they all
> > run
> > >>>> way better on LP. After a few years, the pistons look almost new.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> The company, Champion, has been fantastic.  They do not discourage
> > their
> > >>>> customers from converting to LP.  The tech I have been working with
> > says
> > >>>> that he and the others in his office "hate" to see engines running
> on
> > >>> gas.
> > >>>> So, it seems as though the pump might have gone bad sitting in the
> > >>>> box
> > >>> over
> > >>>> the winter.  Not likely.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Today, I pulled the pump off and wheeled it outside and fired it up
> > >>>> on
> > >>> both
> > >>>> LP and gas.  No problems.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I did notice that the pto shaft that the pump attaches to was so hot
> > >>>> I
> > >>>> could not even touch it.  Is this normal? Does heat simply get
> > >>> transferred
> > >>>> through the pto shaft?
> > >>>>
> > >>>> As I said, the company has been fantastic to work with. They sent me
> > >>>> a
> > >>> new
> > >>>> carb and even a new pump (which I have not tried yet).  I'm trying
> to
> > >>> see
> > >>>> why the pto shaft is so terribly hot.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Is this normal?
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Thoughts?
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Thanks
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