[AT] 430V update (a bit off topic)

[charlie hill]

Yep,  I agree Mike and since I ordered some new parts for the
engine about 10 years ago and still haven't installed them I guess
I can afford the time.  I'm just upset at myself for letting it happen.

Charlie

-----Original Message----- 
From: Mike M
Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2017 2:22 PM
To: Antique tractor email discussion group
Subject: Re: [AT] 430V update (a bit off topic)

Like Dean said, Charlie.. patience, let the solvent do the work for you.
Mike M

On 7/29/2017 1:11 PM, charlie hill wrote:
> I don't mean to hijack Spencer's thread but:
> Speaking of stuck engines.  I have a Fairbanks Morse stationary engine
> that I like to play with but because of an injured knee and watching out
> for my ailing and ultimately dying mother it sat unattended outdoors
> for a couple of years with out benefit of my normal ritual to spin it over
> once and a while.  I finally worked my way back to it recently to find it
> stuck tight.  I'm guessing it must have stopped with the exhaust valve 
> open
> a bit.  I pulled the spark plug expecting to see signs of water but there
> was none.
> (the engine sits outside as it was intended to do when manufactured)  What 
> I
> did
> find on the electrode of the spark plug was bug residue, a bit of cob web
> and part
> of a well dried bug of some sort.  I sprayed it down well with PBlaster
> which is what
> I had handy and put the plug back in it.  I sprayed down the valves and 
> all
> the external
> moving parts.  In the next few days I'll reposition the exhaust stack 
> (it's
> turned down flat
> now) and fill the cylinder with diesel or whatever concoction I come up 
> with
> and hope for
> the best.  I really hate to have to pull the old girl apart.  There is no
> sign that it's ever
> been opened up and she always ran very well.
>
> We shall see.
>
> Charlie
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Hall
> Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2017 9:08 AM
> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
> Subject: Re: [AT] 430V update
>
> Lowes sells gallons of WD-40. I'm not a huge fan of it but did use it on
> my Titan. Don't know how well it worked as we still had to drive the
> pistons out, but we had been dealing with an engine that sat 60 years
> untouched. Even if you have to drive them out, soaking should improve
> things.
>
> John Hall
>
>
> On 7/28/2017 9:59 PM, Spencer Yost wrote:
>> I am still soaking the engine, and not much seems to be going on. I have
>> noticed that when I use a very thin  penetrant; like the 3M product, or
>> Gibbs, or what not the penetrant does seem to leak down. In fact I  even
>> see air bubbles around the circumference of the piston with my bore 
>> scope.
>> But if drain it and I put anything thicker, like my diesel/ATF solution,
>> it  just sits there.
>>
>> But I have been able to procure a new rear wheel. I believe I mentioned 
>> it
>> before, but the only thing that was ever really wrong with this tractor 
>> is
>> calcium had eaten away at part of the right rear wheel. I knew about this
>> when I bought it. But the tire basically kind of sorta holds air and the
>> wheel holds up the tractor.  But I knew it needed to be replaced. I
>> recently scored a nearly pristine, correct, welded, rear wheel for this
>> tractor. The earlier tractors like the 40 and the M were riveted(Dean 
>> fact
>> check me on that) . But these were welded. Less easy to find than you
>> might imagine in good shape.  I didn't get a steal on it, but I wasn't
>> completely ripped off either. Which is what I would've expected to 
>> happen.
>> :-). And they are not making them any more so I figured I should just go
>> ahead and get it.
>>
>> Which leads me to an ATIS list member trip. An old time, and 
>> unfortunately
>> previous, list member Brice Adams picked  up the wheel for me. So I drove
>> to his house this past weekend and visited with him to pick up the wheel.
>> We had a great tractor weekend. He has a B that is stuck and sitting in
>> the fence row, so using one of his newer John Deeres we got that pulled
>> out, drained water in the oil and we got penetrating fluid in it .   Then
>> we did quite a bit of work on a farmall cub with a woods mower and got it
>> running. He still has a little more carb work to do to get it running 
>> 100%
>> reliably(needs choke to run), but it runs very nice when you dial in the
>> throttle and the choke cable.  Great hospitality and great fun!
>>
>> Spencer Yost
>>
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