[AT] Sorry for the OT post...

Dean VP deanvp at att.net
Tue Jul 18 09:12:05 PDT 2017


It may have worked itself loose

      From: Dick Day <dickday0 at gmail.com>
 To: Antique tractor email discussion group <at at lists.antique-tractor.com> 
 Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2017 6:26 AM
 Subject: Re: [AT] Sorry for the OT post...
   
The threads look perfect and after cleaning the sand off of it, it screwed
back in just fine.  Looking at it, you'd never know it had been forced out
of the threaded hole.

On Tue, Jul 18, 2017 at 12:53 AM, Mike M <meulenms at gmx.com> wrote:

> Still trying to figure out how an oil filler plug blew out without
> destroying the plastic threads.
>
> Mike M
>
>
> On 7/17/2017 6:44 PM, Dick Day wrote:
> > Mike, no mud daubers. In the Fall, I run some of that Briggs pump
> > antifreeze through it and then store the pump in the heated shop.  Plus,
> > this was the second pump.  Champion (great folks), without me even asking
> > for it, sent me an email saying one had been shipped and to let them know
> > how it went with the new pump.
> >
> > Tonight I survey the wreckage :)
> >
> > On Mon, Jul 17, 2017 at 5:04 PM, Mike M <meulenms at gmx.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Dick, is the oil cap that came flying off threaded? damaged? I'm trying
> >> to think of what would cause so much crankcase pressure!! Do you have
> >> mud daubers?
> >>
> >> I have had my pump (not engine) turn hard when I didn't use the
> >> winterizer, even though I store my power washer in the basement. I
> >> attributed it to our hard water leaving calcium deposits. After lubing
> >> it up, it worked fine. I now use the winterizer  every year and have had
> >> no problems.
> >>
> >> Mike M
> >>
> >>
> >> On 7/17/2017 5:25 PM, Dick Day wrote:
> >>> So... is there a chance the engine is still salvageable?  No parts
> >> laying
> >>> around, just the plastic oil fill threaded plug.  It all happened so
> >> fast.
> >>> My wife and I both smelled something burning but saw no flames.  The
> >> engine
> >>> shut down and 2 seconds later the oil fill plug shot about 2 feet from
> >> the
> >>> engine and oil went a good 15 feet.  I let it cool down outside and
> >> rolled
> >>> it back into the shop.  I am semi-retired and only work Mondays &
> >> Tuesdays,
> >>> so Wednesday I plan on removing the pump, draining the oil through a
> fine
> >>> screen. If I don't see any pieces in the oil, I'll fill it back up and
> >> see
> >>> if it will run without the pump on.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks
> >>>
> >>> On Mon, Jul 17, 2017 at 4:19 PM, Dick Day <dickday0 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Correct, the pto shaft on the engine.
> >>>>
> >>>> On Fri, Jul 14, 2017 at 9:35 AM, Stephen Offiler <soffiler at gmail.com>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Dick, to clarify, you said "I did notice that the pto shaft that the
> >> pump
> >>>>> attaches to was so hot I could not even touch it."  You DO mean the
> >> motor
> >>>>> shaft, right?  Not the pump?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> SO
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 9:26 PM, Dick Day <dickday0 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> I'm desperate.  Last year I bought a fairly large power washer.
> >> 4200psi
> >>>>>> 3.5gpm.  It has a 389cc gas engine. It ran great, we used it a lot.
> >> In
> >>>>> the
> >>>>>> Fall, I removed the pump and stored it the heated shop for the
> winter.
> >>>>>> Over the winter, I converted it to also run on LP.  In the dead of
> >>>>> winter,
> >>>>>> I wheeled it outside and it fired right up.  I put it away until the
> >>>>>> spring.  I put the pump back on and decided to clean the siding on
> the
> >>>>> back
> >>>>>> of the house.  It started right up. The second I squeeze the
> trigger,
> >> it
> >>>>>> runs really bad.  Let go of the trigger and it's fine.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I put some gas in it and now it also runs really bad when engaging
> the
> >>>>>> pump.  If I remove the pump, it starts and runs great on both LP and
> >>>>> gas.
> >>>>>> The LP conversion consisted of removing the air filter, installing
> >>>>> longer
> >>>>>> bolts and mounting an LP collar between the carb and the air filter.
> >>>>>> Nothing was modified.  I've done several LP conversions and they all
> >> run
> >>>>>> way better on LP. After a few years, the pistons look almost new.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> The company, Champion, has been fantastic.  They do not discourage
> >> their
> >>>>>> customers from converting to LP.  The tech I have been working with
> >> says
> >>>>>> that he and the others in his office "hate" to see engines running
> on
> >>>>> gas.
> >>>>>> So, it seems as though the pump might have gone bad sitting in the
> box
> >>>>> over
> >>>>>> the winter.  Not likely.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Today, I pulled the pump off and wheeled it outside and fired it up
> on
> >>>>> both
> >>>>>> LP and gas.  No problems.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I did notice that the pto shaft that the pump attaches to was so
> hot I
> >>>>>> could not even touch it.  Is this normal? Does heat simply get
> >>>>> transferred
> >>>>>> through the pto shaft?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> As I said, the company has been fantastic to work with. They sent
> me a
> >>>>> new
> >>>>>> carb and even a new pump (which I have not tried yet).  I'm trying
> to
> >>>>> see
> >>>>>> why the pto shaft is so terribly hot.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Is this normal?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Thoughts?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Thanks
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