[AT] Sorry for the OT post...

Tue Jul 18 09:21:53 PDT 2017

I am thinking what I think Mike M is thinking.  The plug was not in tight
and backed out during operation from normal vibration.

On Jul 18, 2017 9:33 AM, "Dick Day" <dickday0 at gmail.com> wrote:

> The threads look perfect and after cleaning the sand off of it, it screwed
> back in just fine.   Looking at it, you'd never know it had been forced out
> of the threaded hole.
>
> On Tue, Jul 18, 2017 at 12:53 AM, Mike M <meulenms at gmx.com> wrote:
>
> > Still trying to figure out how an oil filler plug blew out without
> > destroying the plastic threads.
> >
> > Mike M
> >
> >
> > On 7/17/2017 6:44 PM, Dick Day wrote:
> > > Mike, no mud daubers. In the Fall, I run some of that Briggs pump
> > > antifreeze through it and then store the pump in the heated shop.
> Plus,
> > > this was the second pump.  Champion (great folks), without me even
> asking
> > > for it, sent me an email saying one had been shipped and to let them
> know
> > > how it went with the new pump.
> > >
> > > Tonight I survey the wreckage :)
> > >
> > > On Mon, Jul 17, 2017 at 5:04 PM, Mike M <meulenms at gmx.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >> Dick, is the oil cap that came flying off threaded? damaged? I'm
> trying
> > >> to think of what would cause so much crankcase pressure!! Do you have
> > >> mud daubers?
> > >>
> > >> I have had my pump (not engine) turn hard when I didn't use the
> > >> winterizer, even though I store my power washer in the basement. I
> > >> attributed it to our hard water leaving calcium deposits. After lubing
> > >> it up, it worked fine. I now use the winterizer  every year and have
> had
> > >> no problems.
> > >>
> > >> Mike M
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On 7/17/2017 5:25 PM, Dick Day wrote:
> > >>> So... is there a chance the engine is still salvageable?   No parts
> > >> laying
> > >>> around, just the plastic oil fill threaded plug.  It all happened so
> > >> fast.
> > >>> My wife and I both smelled something burning but saw no flames.  The
> > >> engine
> > >>> shut down and 2 seconds later the oil fill plug shot about 2 feet
> from
> > >> the
> > >>> engine and oil went a good 15 feet.   I let it cool down outside and
> > >> rolled
> > >>> it back into the shop.  I am semi-retired and only work Mondays &
> > >> Tuesdays,
> > >>> so Wednesday I plan on removing the pump, draining the oil through a
> > fine
> > >>> screen. If I don't see any pieces in the oil, I'll fill it back up
> and
> > >> see
> > >>> if it will run without the pump on.
> > >>>
> > >>> Thanks
> > >>>
> > >>> On Mon, Jul 17, 2017 at 4:19 PM, Dick Day <dickday0 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>> Correct, the pto shaft on the engine.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On Fri, Jul 14, 2017 at 9:35 AM, Stephen Offiler <
> soffiler at gmail.com>
> > >>>> wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> Dick, to clarify, you said "I did notice that the pto shaft that
> the
> > >> pump
> > >>>>> attaches to was so hot I could not even touch it."   You DO mean
> the
> > >> motor
> > >>>>> shaft, right?  Not the pump?
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> SO
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 9:26 PM, Dick Day <dickday0 at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> I'm desperate.  Last year I bought a fairly large power washer.
> > >> 4200psi
> > >>>>>> 3.5gpm.  It has a 389cc gas engine. It ran great, we used it a
> lot.
> > >> In
> > >>>>> the
> > >>>>>> Fall, I removed the pump and stored it the heated shop for the
> > winter.
> > >>>>>> Over the winter, I converted it to also run on LP.  In the dead of
> > >>>>> winter,
> > >>>>>> I wheeled it outside and it fired right up.  I put it away until
> the
> > >>>>>> spring.  I put the pump back on and decided to clean the siding on
> > the
> > >>>>> back
> > >>>>>> of the house.  It started right up. The second I squeeze the
> > trigger,
> > >> it
> > >>>>>> runs really bad.  Let go of the trigger and it's fine.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> I put some gas in it and now it also runs really bad when engaging
> > the
> > >>>>>> pump.  If I remove the pump, it starts and runs great on both LP
> and
> > >>>>> gas.
> > >>>>>> The LP conversion consisted of removing the air filter, installing
> > >>>>> longer
> > >>>>>> bolts and mounting an LP collar between the carb and the air
> filter.
> > >>>>>> Nothing was modified.  I've done several LP conversions and they
> all
> > >> run
> > >>>>>> way better on LP. After a few years, the pistons look almost new.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> The company, Champion, has been fantastic.  They do not discourage
> > >> their
> > >>>>>> customers from converting to LP.  The tech I have been working
> with
> > >> says
> > >>>>>> that he and the others in his office "hate" to see engines running
> > on
> > >>>>> gas.
> > >>>>>> So, it seems as though the pump might have gone bad sitting in the
> > box
> > >>>>> over
> > >>>>>> the winter.  Not likely.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Today, I pulled the pump off and wheeled it outside and fired it
> up
> > on
> > >>>>> both
> > >>>>>> LP and gas.  No problems.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> I did notice that the pto shaft that the pump attaches to was so
> > hot I
> > >>>>>> could not even touch it.  Is this normal? Does heat simply get
> > >>>>> transferred
> > >>>>>> through the pto shaft?
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> As I said, the company has been fantastic to work with. They sent
> > me a
> > >>>>> new
> > >>>>>> carb and even a new pump (which I have not tried yet).  I'm trying
> > to
> > >>>>> see
> > >>>>>> why the pto shaft is so terribly hot.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Is this normal?
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Thoughts?
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Thanks
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