[AT] new duties

[Carl Gogol]

I Hate woodchuck holes.  You don't see them when raking hay.  You hit them
full on and it wrenches the steering wheel so hard.  I hate woodchucks.

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[mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of Grant Brians
Sent: Monday, July 3, 2017 2:43 PM
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Subject: Re: [AT] new duties

It is interesting to hear the Narrow Front Tractors referred to as
Tricycles, as the tricycles here were actually three wheel tractors. I still
have multiple tricycle tractors that we do use and with the true tricycles,
I have only once seen one time where the front wheel got caught in a strange
hole and then it tried to kick to the side. Even then not a disaster.
      On the question about the wheelstands, those are something we heard
about every so often, always with an improperly attached implement, an
incorrectly connected cable or chain or an overloaded loader (overloading is
something I have been guilty of - oops) and when those happened, usually
someone got badly injured or killed. On the wheelstands, the type of tractor
doesn't seem to make a difference although they are a little more possible
with higher horsepower to front end weight ration. Mostly since they are
almost always operator error, look out for operator error!
             Grant Brians
On 7/3/2017 8:47 AM, Len Rugen wrote:
> I remember the first driving lesson on tricycle tractors, "Thumbs OUTSIDE
the wheel, not thru the spokes".   There were lots of broken hands from the
Farmalls around here, never heard of any on others, but Case SC's were rare,
I remember one, but I never saw it move.
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> On Monday, July 3, 2017, 10:03:01 AM CDT, Indiana Robinson
<robinson46176 at gmail.com> wrote:
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> I don't believe I ever heard of a tricycle SC or DC Case  having 
> trouble with the a front end steering gear...  :-) Maybe they were 
> just going for simple.
> Steering wheel kickback was common on a number of manual steering 
> tractors but the only guy I knew personally (close neighbor) to get a 
> broken arm from one farmed with a  tricycle SC Case. I have no idea if 
> the steering design had anything to do with it at all, I never drove one.
> On a branch note, my father bought a 1941 Ford/Ferguson 9N new in 
> early
> 1942 and he bought an add-on unit for it that mounted under the 
> steering wheel that was claimed to stop kickback. I guess it worked, I 
> drove that tractor a lot from a very young age and it never kicked 
> back on me. The Ferguson TO-20 did a few times and the Ford Jubilee 
> kicked back more than anything else we owned I think.
> That 9N attachment was smaller than later after-market units that I 
> recall seeing on other tractors that included a steering wheel. The 9N 
> unit was kind of triangle shaped and you pulled the wheel, bolted it 
> to the top of the mount and re-attached the original wheel. It raised 
> the wheel maybe 1 1/2".
> I believe he bought it through the Ford dealer. It may have been 
> Sherman, I know they made one. I have never seen another like it on a
tractor.
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> Cecil, I have a pair of Case DC rims I got for the tires on them but 
> I'm quite sure both rims are total junk. I also have a Case DC rear 
> wheel cast center. I don't suppose anyone ever breaks one of those 
> things. I also have a pair of those DC front cast wheels. Son Scott 
> has been using them for weights for a small harrow.  :-)
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> On Mon, Jul 3, 2017 at 8:55 AM, Herb Metz <metz-h.b at comcast.net> wrote:
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>> Agreed John, however the only tractor I ever heard had wheelstands 
>> problem was the early Fordson. Herb(GA)
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>> From: John Hall
>> Sent: Monday, July 03, 2017 7:27 AM
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>> Subject: Re: [AT] new duties
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>> I think the reason for the wheels being out in front is 2 fold. One, 
>> the tractor is lower to the ground than a Farmall M or Deere A--at 
>> least the engine and clutch housing. It would have had to have tiny 
>> wheels to get them under the machine. Second is weight. I can't 
>> recall pulling off one of those front tires, but they are cast 
>> wheels. Stick them way out front and no problem keeping wheelstands 
>> to a minimum. Just my thoughts, could be all wrong.
>>
>> John Hall
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