[AT] Ram 3.0 liter Dieselgate

[charlie hill]

There is a paper mill near here and lots of my friends work their or did 
until
retirement.  They have a scrubber on their power plant stack.  At one time
the states particulate requirement for that stack scrubber was several times
lower than the capacity of any measurement device available on the market to 
detect.

Makes  a lot of sense doesn't it?

Charlie



-----Original Message----- 
From: Dennis Johnson
Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2017 10:52 PM
To: Antique tractor email discussion group
Subject: Re: [AT] Ram 3.0 liter Dieselgate

I get frustrated with a government plan to try and reduce emissions here 
enough to. Bring down worldwide pollution levels, while some neighboring 
countries are not required to clean up engines and other pollutant sources 
that much.
There is no question that we should not go back to the 60's with no 
regulations. The real question is how much emissions level is clean enough.
Diesels have been targeted because "bad truckers" drive them, and most 
voters do not drive them. Much like other issues, force someone else to do 
more or have more pain so I the "average voter" has less pain and cost.
Somehow the fact that a diesel can use 30% to 50% less hydrocarbons than gas 
vehicles does not matter to many pushing these regulations.
I have attended official CARB meetings in the past. People there did not 
care if there was science available to do something, and believe if they 
just mandated something miracles would happen. There have been times when 
forced regulation has caused scientific advances. I thing we have reached 
the limit for the time being where cleaner regulations are not getting 
breakthroughs each time.
The company I used to work for got a fine because we could not prove that we 
met some emission regulation that was not yet written. This goes to show how 
absurd things can and sometimes do get.
We need some reasonable emission levels, and some other way to motivate 
changes. Have some reasonable differential tax policy to promote better 
emission levels. Over time things will improve without stupid arbitrary 
limits.
The VM 3.0 issue seems to be how many events can allow emission level to 
exceed mores. It is agreed there are some that can, but the government 
thinks there are too many of these exceptions. I am reasonably sure the 
government did not specify which ones were acceptable, or how many were 
acceptable. A bit like a fine for not meeting regulations not yet written.

I like my VM 3.0 in my Ram 1500. Earlier this week was getting up to 27 mpg 
on a trip to Kansas. Last few days 25 mpg with short trips from cabin to 
town.

Thanks
Dennis


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