[AT] Anyone heard from Bo Hinch?

Thu Jan 26 09:09:30 PST 2017

Bo what little I know is just from observation and not recently.
It was never my job to make the compressors run.  I just had to
make sure the men were on the job and had what they needed to
work.  If a compressor went down and I couldn't get someone to
fix it right away I was on the phone or radio or in the truck headed
to get another one.  But I have picked up some things from observation
and experience.   I just don't know the names of the parts precisely.

Charlie

-----Original Message----- 
From: Bo Hinch
Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2017 6:46 PM
To: Antique tractor email discussion group
Subject: Re: [AT] Anyone heard from Bo Hinch?

Sorry for being away for a few days but it looks like Charlie knows more
than he is letting on . My thoughts are , is the air cold ( is it cold
outside ) and is there moisture in the air ? I have seen regulators freeze
up , diaphragms crack and so on but I don`t think I would mess with the
rack on the engine  .In my opinion , the compressor is not shutting off all
the way , engine is going to idle UNDER load and THAT is whats killing the
engine . Ever experience carburetor ice in an airplane engine ? the same
thing happens in a compressor when moving a large amount of air . Check and
MAKE sure the air INTAKE is CLOSING ALL the WAY .That would be my first
step . Hope this helps some , if not , let me know .

On Wed, Jan 25, 2017 at 11:03 AM, charlie hill <charliehill at embarqmail.com>
wrote:

> That's where I'd be looking.  Detroit racks generally don't
> get out of wack that far unless there is something worn of damaged.
>
> Charlie
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Cecil Bearden
> Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2017 8:01 PM
> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
> Subject: Re: [AT] Anyone heard from Bo Hinch?
>
> I replaced that diaphram once, it may have cracked with the cold, or it
> was just too cold for the oil in the compressor and the engine was just
> not idling fast enough.
>
> Cecil in OKla
>
>
> On 1/24/2017 11:49 AM, charlie hill wrote:
> > Cecil I'm really stepping out on a limb here but I want to
> > say there is a diaphragm somewhere in the system that goes bad
> > and creates that problem.  My guess is the problem is on the air end
> > of the compressor not the governor.  I may be wrong.  Like I said, I
> never
> > worked on them myself.  Occasionally when they started acting up on
> > the job the guys would attach a wire to the lever that that rod attaches
> > to
> > and pull the rod back a bit (towards the air end) to make it run until 
> > it
> > could
> > be fixed.  I can't tell you how to do that either particularly on a
> > Detroit.
> >
> > Hang on a bit and maybe Bo will set us both straight.  I'm pretty sure 
> > he
> > knows.
> >
> > Charlie
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Cecil Bearden
> > Sent: Monday, January 23, 2017 6:27 PM
> > To: Antique tractor email discussion group
> > Subject: Re: [AT] Anyone heard from Bo Hinch?
> >
> > OK, that confirms what I was thinking.  It has been 20 years since I set
> > he rack on a Detroit.  luckily I still have all my old books, just have
> > to dig them out...   They are buried in some file cabinets behind a
> > stack of plywood!! That plywood is not on pallets either!!  I think the
> > problem is the rod from the compressor regulator is a little too long
> > for cold weather operation...   My problem is that I work with 4cycle
> > diesels all the time and a Detroit sounds so much different, that  I
> > have a problem setting the idle speed by ear.   I love Detroits, they
> > are about the most reliable engine around.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Cecil
> >
> >
> > On 1/23/2017 11:45 AM, charlie hill wrote:
> >> Cecil,
> >>
> >> I'm sure Bo can help you with this better than I can.
> >> After being around a lot of Detroits I can tell you that
> >> the idle is controlled by "the rack" and that isn't something
> >> you need to mess with without experience because if it
> >> isn't right the engine will run away until it hand grenades.
> >>
> >> The problem you are having is most likely related to the pressure 
> >> relief
> >> valve.  The Ingersol compressors I'm familiar with don't have detroits
> >> but
> >> I think the set up is about the same.  There is a valve on top of the
> >> accumulator
> >> tank that is piped to a solenoid wired to the start button.  There is a
> >> rod
> >> that runs
> >> from the air end of the compressor to the pump on a JD or Cummins.  I'm
> >> not
> >> sure
> >> how it's set up for a detroit but that calls on the governor based on
> air
> >> demand.
> >> If it's not right it will shut the engine down or rather lug it down
> >> until
> >> it shuts off.
> >>
> >> Of all the screw compressors I've dealt with over the years, if they 
> >> are
> >> giving problems
> >> it is somewhere in that system.  I'm sorry I don't know the correct
> >> terminology.
> >> I never work on them because 1)  they weren't my machines and 2) given
> >> the
> >> nature
> >> of compressed air I didn't want to risk tinkering with it.  I leave 
> >> that
> >> to
> >> folks that know what
> >> they are doing. I've never seen a compressor come unglued but I have
> seen
> >> a
> >> Detroit run away
> >> and grenade.  It ain't pretty! It will make you want to run!
> >>
> >> Charlie
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Cecil Bearden
> >> Sent: Monday, January 23, 2017 10:27 AM
> >> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
> >> Subject: Re: [AT] Anyone heard from Bo Hinch?
> >>
> >> Bo:
> >>
> >> Thanks..  I had a ransom virus in my computer and I had to start over
> >> lost everything from 2007..  My old Ingersoll 250 rotary ........... 
> >> I
> >> had to start it up in 12 deg weather a few weeks back.  3cyl
> >> detroit...   It finally fired up with some ether like a typical
> >> Detroit.   However, when pressure would build up and it would try to
> >> idle back, it would just die.  I don't have a tach on this machine.. 
> >> I
> >> was only needing it at the time to air up a tire.   My electric
> >> compressor was in another building., and my small compressor used a
> >> Honda that would not pull start with the cold..   I finally connected a
> >> 1/2" hose barb orifice to the other valve on the compressor and bled
> >> enough air to keep the engine throttled up and hold at about 100 lbs
> >> pressure.  I got the tire aired up and then discovered the oil filter 
> >> on
> >> the Detroit started leaking.  New filter and new 15W40 oil, but it was
> >> cold..     I really don't find a place to set the Idle speed on the
> >> Detroit.. I know this is a rather dumb question.
> >>
> >> Cecil
> >>
> >>
> >> On 1/23/2017 8:32 AM, Bo Hinch wrote:
> >>> Am still hanging in there Cecil and you can always find me by doing a
> >>> google search on me . Been meaning to get with you on ALL these books
> >>> that
> >>> I have packed up and ready to go somewhere that you suggested a while
> >>> back
> >>> .The croup has been slowing me down for a while but hope to be back on
> >>> track shortly . Oh , glad SOMEONE misses me , even if only for
> >>> information
> >>>     .
> >>>
> >>> On Mon, Jan 23, 2017 at 8:11 AM, Chuck Saunders <gooberdog at gmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Cecil,
> >>>> The email Bo posted in his latest post to the list was
> >>>> bohinch at gmail.com
> >>>> Hope this helps
> >>>> Chuck Saunders
> >>>>
> >>>> On Mon, Jan 23, 2017 at 7:57 AM, Cecil Bearden <crbearden at copper.net>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> I haven't seen any posts from Bo in a while, and I lost his email
> >>>>> address when I got the Ransom Virus I wanted to ask him about a
> >>>>> problem
> >>>>> I have with my old Ingersoll compressor when it is cold...
> >>>>> Cecil in OKla
> >>>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>>> AT mailing list
> >>>>> http://www.antique-tractor.com/mailman/listinfo/at
> >>>>>
> >>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>> AT mailing list
> >>>> http://www.antique-tractor.com/mailman/listinfo/at
> >>>>
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> AT mailing list
> >>> http://www.antique-tractor.com/mailman/listinfo/at
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> AT mailing list
> >> http://www.antique-tractor.com/mailman/listinfo/at
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> AT mailing list
> >> http://www.antique-tractor.com/mailman/listinfo/at
> > _______________________________________________
> > AT mailing list
> > http://www.antique-tractor.com/mailman/listinfo/at
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > AT mailing list
> > http://www.antique-tractor.com/mailman/listinfo/at
>
> _______________________________________________
> AT mailing list
> http://www.antique-tractor.com/mailman/listinfo/at
>
> _______________________________________________
> AT mailing list
> http://www.antique-tractor.com/mailman/listinfo/at
>
_______________________________________________
AT mailing list
http://www.antique-tractor.com/mailman/listinfo/at 