[AT] Potebtial tractors for the East Bend, NC area

charlie hill charliehill at embarqmail.com
Sat Feb 25 09:34:13 PST 2017


Spencer,  this is only my observation and it may be way off
but it's what I believe.  There are a few legitimate wineries/vineyards
operating in NC and Virginia.  What I mean by that is where the folks
are hard working and really believe in trying to make a living off the land
by growing grapes and making wine.  However, the fancy ones, I believe, are
owned and operated by wealthy folks who are taking advantage of the tax code
to have a fancy showplace that they can write off of their taxes.  They 
don't really
care what things cost.  They don't even really care about the bottom line. 
What they
care about is having a good time and looking good doing it.

I mean no offense to them by saying that and I'm not trying to be political. 
I just think it's fact.
Again that is my opinion but it's based on 40 years of experience as a 
construction estimator/project
manager and real estate appraiser.  Add to that the cost of a bottle of wine 
and it's real easy to figure
out they aren't making any money.

I actually know one winery owner and he's a dedicated pro and works hard at 
it.  He is helped along
by his wife who is very accomplished in her profession.  Still the winery 
seems to struggle.  He is one
of the ones that uses older equipment and doesn't have a fancy wine tasting 
villa with a 10 million dollar
view.

As for the tractors,  the newer small diesel tractors are incredibly 
reliable and economical to operate and
for the most part start when you hit the switch.

Charlie


-----Original Message----- 
From: David Bruce
Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2017 4:32 AM
To: Antique tractor email discussion group
Subject: Re: [AT] Potebtial tractors for the East Bend, NC area

And given hired help does a large part of the work ease of use does make
a difference. Then you get into the tax write off thing.  I was chatting
with my lawnmower people yesterday and we discussed the point of diesel
vs gas for tractors. To me nothing sounds better that an older Allis gas
engine when running right but for every day use I find a smaller diesel
tractor much more efficient with my time.

David

NW NC


On 2/24/2017 10:35 PM, Al Jones wrote:
> Spencer I think there are a couple reasons why.  A lot of these folks
> are former yuppies that are getting into "farming."  They're used to
> a/c, satellite radio, and a backup camera in their vehicle, so they
> want the same features in their tractors.  The other reason is a lot
> of people are not that mechanically inclined and can't keep an older
> one running, or they just want to climb in/on, turn the key and go.
>
> Al
>
> On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 9:30 PM, Spencer Yost <yostsw at atis.net> wrote:
>> In the 1990s I really thought that some of the smaller agricultural 
>> operations that were popping up, like vineyards with wineries, that are 
>> small acreage, would be able to find a use for some of these older 
>> tractors. But they don't seem too interested. They'd rather buy the 
>> $30,000 Kubotas.
>>
>> If anyone is wondering, David and I live along the Yadkin River valley. 
>> The river valley is home to about 30 really high-quality vineyards and 
>> wineries.  Flint hill is fairly close to both of us.  It's one of the 
>> smaller vineyards but produces a pretty nice chambourcin(spelling??) 
>> grape and some nice wine.   They have other varietals too. I can't 
>> remember if they produce the wine themselves or hire it out to the 
>> vintners at some of the larger wineries in the area.
>>
>> http://www.flinthillvineyards.com/
>> http://yadkinvalleywinetrail.com/
>>
>> Spencer Yost
>>
>>
>>
>> Spencer Yost
>>> On Feb 24, 2017, at 8:26 PM, David Bruce <tractor57 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Not today but I have been.
>>>
>>> I was in EB make a bank deposit. I have seen these reactors working for
>>> years - I guess times have changed.
>>>
>>>
>>> David
>>>
>>> NW NC
>>>
>>>
>>>> On 2/24/2017 7:42 PM, Spencer Yost wrote:
>>>> Were you at the Flint Hill winery drinking wine?  (-;
>>>>
>>>> Seriously though, if the price is right and the tires are really good I 
>>>> might be interested in one of them.  Flint Hill Road is not on my way 
>>>> to anywhere this weekend, or I'd go take a look myself. So if you get 
>>>> by there on Monday that would be great to get some more information.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks!
>>>>
>>>> Spencer Yost
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Spencer Yost
>>>>> On Feb 24, 2017, at 3:47 PM, David Bruce <tractor57 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I was on Flynt Hill Road near the town boundary today and saw what I
>>>>> think were 2 Ford 8xx tractors with for sale signs. One a wide front 
>>>>> and
>>>>> the other a tricycle front. I did not stop to look as I don't need 
>>>>> more
>>>>> puppies following me home at this time.I didn't see phone number but 
>>>>> if
>>>>> someone is interested I'll be back by there Monday.
>>>>>
>>>>> David
>>>>>
>>>>> NW NC
>>>>>
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