[AT] Eco Diesel road trip

Tue Aug 15 10:30:59 PDT 2017

Dennis,  if you are towing with the cruise control set you should be in tow 
mode.
Transmissions are expensive!  If your transmission oil is getting hot you 
need to
downshift or slow down.  A bigger oil cooler might help if that's possible 
on your
truck.

Charlie

-----Original Message----- 
From: Dennis Johnson
Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2017 10:35 AM
To: Antique tractor email discussion group
Subject: Re: [AT] Eco Diesel road trip

Cecil,

Truck has the standard Dodge 20" tires, not sure exact size without looking 
and I am not near my pickup now. Computer says 275/60R20
In 8th gear, engine runs about 1750 RPM. When loaded and uphill it 
frequently goes to 7th gear. It will drop to 6th or even 5th when pulling a 
hill with cruise on. Think RPM is about 2250 when in 6th.
The 8 speed transmission is really what makes this pickup function well.
There is a tow mode that I have used some that keeps in in lower gears a 
little longer. I used it when I towed my 20' flatbed trailer with the 49 MM 
UTS tractor, or I pull my IHC 2504 loader tractor.

Someone mentioned transmission temperature. Mine was running about 180 to 
190 as I recall, so I did not pay that much attention to it sense it was 
staying down.

Thanks
Dennis

Sent from my iPad

> On Aug 15, 2017, at 8:05 AM, Cecil Bearden <crbearden at copper.net> wrote:
>
> Dennis:
> What RPM does the engine run at 60 or 65?  What size tires?  I used to
> gear my old Chevrolets with 4.10 gears behind a 350 engine and a 700R4
> Transmission since it had an overdrive.  With the old 350 trans I had to
> be satisfied with a top speed of 65 with the 4.10 or either lugging or
> over-revving the engine on a hill with a trailer with the 3.73.   When I
> went to 3/4 tons and 16 in tires, it the 4.10 was about right.
>
> I have 2- 1995 Ford 1tons, one with a 3.73 and the other with 4.10
> gears.   Both have A4OD transmissions and 7.3 diesels.  The one with the
> 4.10 ratio pulls the best of course, but it really is wound up at 75mph
> on the turnpike and will only get about 10mpg The 3.73 gets the best
> mileage (about 15 w/trailer and 20 without).  However, once I was
> pulling a 40 ft trailer loaded with 25 round bales (4x5) and had to stop
> at an intersection on a hill, I thought I never would get moving.
>
> Now that I  have the C8500 with  the 3126 Cat and Allison, I just have
> to worry about hitting my head on the cab on these improved cow trails
> that Oklahoma calls a road!
>
> Cecil
>
>
>> On 8/14/2017 10:19 AM, Dennis Johnson wrote:
>> Just returned from a 10,000 mile road trip with the EcoDiesel, giving it 
>> a total of 162,000 miles on it.  Made 2 trips from Texas to Idaho pulling 
>> a 16 foot cargo trailer to move an elderly lady. On first trip did a mini 
>> weekend vacation to Banff, Alberta, Canada for a weekend with wife and 
>> without the trailer. Other than that had trailer connected almost the 
>> entire time. Took a week break between the 2 journeys at home, and a few 
>> days at Oklahoma cabin when near the area.
>> I had installed a HD oil cooler kit before I left and I am glad I did. 
>> Generally keep speed down to about 65 MPH keep oil from getting above 230 
>> and exhaust gas (turbo) temps below 1000 F. Decided to stop midway up on 
>> 2 summits on I-70 near Vail and 1 other one top let the oil cool down as 
>> it was hitting 250F. Without the replacement cooler I would not have 
>> averaged 50 MPH with a loaded trailer trying to keep the oil temp down. 
>> The cooler also let engine coolant temperature run about 210 instead of 
>> 235/240. I pulled another loaded trailer a few months ago and noticed oil 
>> temp averaging 245 and water temp 230 which is when I decided to get the 
>> replacement cooler. Mileage was about 12.5 loaded and 14.2 unloaded. 
>> After dropping of the trailer mileage back to 22 when keeping up with 80 
>> MPH traffic flow.
>> Engine had enough power to go 70 but i did not want to push the exhaust 
>> and oil temperatures, and boost pressure that much. Boost was running 
>> under 15 PSI except when pulling uphill. Peaked at 23 PSI on some grades, 
>> but I did not let it start there very long. Glad that I have the 3.92 
>> gears in it for doing things like this.
>> Saw a few tractors along the way that would have been nice to bring home, 
>> but wrong trailer to do that.
>>
>> Dennis
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