[AT] Weird broken crank(not the 430!)

Thu Aug 3 18:22:37 PDT 2017

Spencer:
It has been a while since I ordered from them, but If you still want ot 
check, Small engine warehouse in Indiana, and Tulsa Engine Warehouse in 
Tulsa, OK are 2 good priced engine warehouses.   Also there is a company 
in Florida named Everest that has a lot of parts for small engines that 
are really affordable.  I just order carburetors from them instead of 
trying to rebuild one. Especially if it has had Ethanol in it.
Cecil

On 8/3/2017 5:43 PM, Spencer Yost wrote:
> After much googling, wailing, and gnashing of teeth I was finally able to find an engine with the right crankshaft and dimensions.  Harbor Freight and Northern tool didn't have it by the way.
>
> I found it at jackssmallengines.com, who I like and used before but they are ($$$).  The engine was not even on their website, but I called as a last resort. They were able to locate the engine in their internal database. It is a go-kart engine!   They don't stock it but the supplier they use for Briggs has them and will drop ship for them, so shipping should still be a reasonable amount of time.
>
> Anyways, this has been very frustrating. If you Google the model number nothing comes up. I am absolutely stunned, as I've never seen nothing come up on Google.  Briggs & Stratton website does not make one mention of it.  Everyone I called insisted I must not have the right model number.  Jacks was the only one that found it right away.
>
> So a few green shims in the $100 thickness and the problem is solved.
>
> By the way, I did check into rebuilding the engine. The crankshaft and the rebuild kit would've been approximately $225 after shipping and I value my time enough to ignore the difference so I just bought it.  I'll have 3-4 hours into this as it is.
>
> Thanks for all the help and advice!
>
> Spencer Yost
>
>> On Aug 3, 2017, at 10:38 AM, charlie hill <charliehill at embarqmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I'll keep that in mind Cecil.
>> My starting procedure for mine after they
>> sit up for the winter is to first run the carb
>> dry in the fall, then in the spring turn on the
>> fuel, put fresh non ethanol gas in the tank, open
>> the drain screw in the carb bowl and let a few ounces
>> flush through the system.  Put the drain screw back in,
>> set the choke, turn on the key and pull the cord.
>> The only time it has ever failed to fire on the first pull
>> was if I forgot to turn on the key or set the choke.
>>
>> Charlie
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Cecil Bearden
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2017 10:50 PM
>> To: at at lists.antique-tractor.com
>> Subject: Re: [AT] Weird broken crank(not the 430!)
>>
>> Charlie:
>> I would second that.   I replaced a briggs on my sprayer with one, and
>> when the fuel tank corroded up I jus t replaced the entire engine
>> again.  I keep 2 of then in the shed all the time for a quick repair.
>> Just a note, if you use 2 cycle gas in small engines, when they set,
>> they will not corrode so bad due to the ethanol that is always in the
>> gas even no ethanol gas.  The oil film stops the corrosion.
>>
>> Cecil
>>
>>
>>> On 8/2/2017 11:59 AM, charlie hill wrote:
>>> Go to Harbor Freight and buy a Chinese Honda knock off for $100.00 and
>>> forget you ever owned the Briggs.
>>>
>>> Charlie
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Spencer Yost
>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2017 9:25 PM
>>> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
>>> Subject: Re: [AT] Weird broken crank(not the 430!)
>>>
>>> It's on a lawn vacuum, and it was running fine.  My wife was operating it
>>> so
>>> I didn't hear it.  She  said it just stopped, making a bunch of noise in
>>> the
>>> process.   The crack occurred right behind the bearing, inside the
>>> crankcase
>>> at the flywheel end, not the impeller end.
>>>
>>> There was a good level on the dipstick and an oil change in the winter so
>>> it
>>> was not oil related.
>>>
>>> Spencer Yost
>>>
>>>> On Aug 1, 2017, at 9:05 PM, vschwartz1 at comcast.net wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Spencer; I do not have any real knowledge about this kind of break but it
>>>> would appear to me that one side or the other would be smooth. I simply
>>>> have a case of nose trouble. What was the engine doing when the crank
>>>> broke? Was the break at the throw? For both pieces of the crank to be
>>>> like
>>>> that photo looks I would think there must have been some end play. Maybe
>>>> that is a normal thing, now define normal.
>>>> Just wondering,
>>>> Gil
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>
>>>> From: "Spencer Yost" <yostsw at atis.net>
>>>> To: at at lists.antique-tractor.com
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 1, 2017 6:04:09 PM
>>>> Subject: [AT] Weird broken crank(not the 430!)
>>>>
>>>> I have a small Briggs that broke a crankshaft yesterday. The weirdest
>>>> thing I've ever seen. Have you ever seen a crank break and leave this
>>>> type
>>>> of a star pattern on both ends?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> [image/jpeg:image1.JPG]
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Spencer Yost
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