[AT] Transporting a Massey Ferguson 135 across country

Thu Sep 29 11:37:45 PDT 2016

Word to the wise  - real "preppers" would not go on TV or post video on 
You Tube or the like. A real prepper is mostly silent on these things.

David
NW NC

On 9/29/2016 2:05 PM, Scott Williams wrote:
> Funny you mention shipping containers.  My wife has been watching a whole season of a Preppers show (something she got offered for free on Amazon Prime) and now keeps bringing up "prepper teams", divided labor, EMPs, etc.  It's pretty funny to me, considering I've long known about prepping and have read quite a few books on the topic, but my wife?
>
> Anyway, she just  two days ago told me she wants to get a shipping container at the place in AZ, and bury it for a "bunker".  We'll see about that, but I'll have to see how much it would cost to ship a loaded container from here to there.  I looked into U-Haul's new "U-Box" system, and it would be very expensive (they're  not that big, so I'd need LOTS of them.)
>
> More than a few of the houses I've seen for sale in AZ have shipping containers on their lots, so it isn't a rare thing out there.  Here, I've never seen it, except maybe as I'm driving down the thru-way I'll see one on a big farm off to the side.
>
> Scott in Penfield NY
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com [mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of Cecil Bearden
> Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 9:47 AM
> To: Antique tractor email discussion group <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> Subject: Re: [AT] Transporting a Massey Ferguson 135 across country
>
> Most of those Ryder trucks are governed at 55mph.  The ones I drove were.  I would definitely get a diesel if renting one.  You will need it
> for pulling a trailer on the long grades between NY and AZ.    I have
> towed and driven over 49 of the 50 states.   One time even flying out to
> the East coast and driving a 25yr old fire truck back to OKlahoma.   If
> you are mechanically inclined and can properly prepare for this trip with tools and ability and funds to tackle nearly any above average complication on the way, then go for it.  I could probably list the most needed tools you could need on the way.  You can get the mechanical knowledge and ability, but one of the most important items is an understanding spouse who won't blow up or melt down ( whichever is
> appropriate ) when a problem arises.   It is difficult to focus on the
> problem at hand when your butt is being removed one bite at a time while being chastised about trying to travel across the country in rented trucks.
>
> Something you might look into is buying a couple of shipping containers, packing them and having them hauled to the destination.  There are a lot of trailers on the road that can load these at your house and unload at
> the destination.   I just had 2 40ft containers delivered to me for
> $4350.  I had to unload them.   If you are interested look at
> www.myminicasa.com  they might even have logistics capabilities to help.  Your tractor will fit in the container, and when you get to AZ, you will have a shelter for your equipment.
>
> I bought my containers to replace a tractor shed that was torn up by a
> small tornado.   I am going to set them about 24ft apart and build a
> roof between.
>
> Good luck  I understand trying to get out of a high tax area. My area has become way too expensive due to the need to build an edifice for the influx of city folks with their snotty little brats.
>
> Cecil in oKla
>
> Cecil inOKla
>
>
> On 9/28/2016 8:07 AM, Spencer Yost wrote:
>> In a business setting my company once bought a new trailer and then immediately sold it at the destination.   $400 loss was all we took. It could have been less but selling quickly was important.  Turned out to be cheaper than renting and we got to haul cross country on new tires, bearings, lighting, etc.  If you are patient when selling it you might come out pretty good.  Another caveat is making sure you buy a  brand(I.e. A national brand) that has a reputation at your destination.
>>
>> If you can't sell it for what you think you need to get, then you still have the trailer  for chores at the new place.
>>
>> Just an idea....
>>
>> Spencer Yost
>>
>>> On Sep 28, 2016, at 12:04 AM, Dean VP <deanvp at att.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> Scott,
>>>
>>> Make sure you check with trailer rental companies before making any
>>> decisions. Some maybe all rental trailers will rent a trailer to pull
>>> a car but will not allow a tractor to be pulled.  I would not
>>> recommend buying an old used trailer as you really don’t know what
>>> you willbne getting and probably would be facing tire issues as well.
>>> Many trailers of this type have ST tires on them and they are not worth the powder to blow them up.
>>> Many of the ST tires have a warranty of 3 years or 10,000 mile
>>> whichever comes first.  LT tires are much better.
>>>
>>> Dean VP
>>> Snohomish, WA 98290
>>>
>>> It's better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
>>> [mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of Scott
>>> Williams
>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2016 8:30 PM
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>>> Subject: [AT] Transporting a Massey Ferguson 135 across country
>>>
>>> As our brand new house is nearing completion, we’re thinking there’s
>>> no better time to do what we’ve always thought about – moving out of
>>> this crazy tax-and-spend state!  We figure with a brand new house and
>>> freshly cleared land behind it (giving the kitchen window a really
>>> nice view of the newly cleared property) we’ll get top dollar for
>>> what we have here in NY, which will allow us to move to Arizona
>>> (maybe even without a mortgage), which is where we feel like we need
>>> to be for various reasons.  Not Phoenix (HOT), but Snowflake, up near
>>> Holbrook and Route 66, at 5,600 ft. altitude, and about 5,600 population, too.  Big change.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> We figure we’ll rent a couple of the big U-Haul trucks (or Penske, or
>>> whatever’s cheapest) the biggest box trucks you can get without a
>>> CDL, and load up most of our things in those, but I’ll need to get my
>>> tractor out there somehow, and I don’t know what the best option for that will be.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Renting a trailer is an option, if I get a car hauler trailer, it
>>> will hold the tractor (and maybe one implement, like the mower, I
>>> hope.)  That would be around $700 for a one-way tow.  I could
>>> probably buy an old car hauler trailer or other dual axle flatbed
>>> trailer for around $800-1000.  To pull it, I’d use either my ’05
>>> Sprinter, or maybe buy a pickup truck to pull it – but that might
>>> just be something like an old 1500 Silverado, not a ¾ ton or anything
>>> heavy duty like that.  I’d prefer to own a trailer to haul it with,
>>> vs renting, for taking it for repairs, or to do work at someone
>>> else’s property, so there’s a huge benefit to that, for not a lot
>>> more money.  But a rental trailer comes with company support, vs.
>>> sitting at the side of the road with a blowout or roasted bearing in my own trailer – who do I call then?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Another option would be to somehow get it into the back of one of the
>>> box trucks, I don’t know how possible or reasonable that is.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The tractor weighs about 3500 lbs., the mower another 900, I’ll be
>>> getting a
>>> 550 lbs box blade, maybe a back blade (200-300 lbs.??)  Because this
>>> is a vineyard model 135, it is very narrow, and would probably even
>>> just barely fit (lengthwise) in an 8 foot truck bed, with the right
>>> loading ramp (the width for sure would be fine, at about 50 inches.)
>>> Here’s a vineyard model that sold at auction, same year as mine (but, ahem, a bit nicer…):
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.mecum.com/lots/GL0616-251644/massey-ferguson-135-vineyard
>>> /
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> So what should I do?  I’m afraid of selling, because I’ve always been
>>> sorry when I sold something I love as much as I love this tractor.
>>> Sure, there are always other tractors, but if you sell your tractor,
>>> then buy another house, does the money really end up in another
>>> tractor, or just a nice granite countertop in the new house?  But
>>> that might be the best option, if moving it will end up too costly
>>> and maybe dangerous.  Because of where I live (where farms are going
>>> away, and people are leaving too, selling off what they have,) I
>>> think it is much easier and cheaper to find used implements here than
>>> in Arizona.  I can get a good 6 foot box blade for about $500 here,
>>> and I’ve looked online in AZ and it looked like a Woods or Bush Hog
>>> box blade would be closer to $800, just as an example.  I missed out
>>> on a really sturdy Gannon box for $300 or less, really kicking myself for that.  So selling here doesn’t automatically translate to buying there.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> If you have any advice about hauling tractors, I’m all ears.  I may
>>> not follow your advice, but I’ll listen!  Also, any websites about
>>> this topic would be great, too.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Scott in Penfield NY
>>>
>>>
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