[AT] OT - Old generator blowing smoke

Scott Williams swillia5 at rochester.rr.com
Sat Sep 24 21:51:41 PDT 2016


Ahhh.  The cap is the correct one, but it is broken around the top, threads
separated from the top of the cap most of the way around.  I noticed one of
the pics I found online had a rubber stopper in it (like the one I had in my
inground pool to winterize one of the jets.)  Makes me think the tank cap
was prone to fail.  I'll take a look at mine, it may be repairable with JB
Weld or something like that.

Perhaps it would be best to just do away with the system - but it seemed
like such a good idea, why not get it working?  I guess the answer may be,
added complexity is the last thing you need, when you need a generator.

Scott in Penfield NY

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> On 9/23/2016 9:59 PM, Scott Williams wrote:
>> This isn't exactly on topic, but I've been working on an old 
>> generator I got at an auction.  It's a Dayton Professional Brushless 
>> Generator from 1988, it has a Briggs & Stratton 16HP I/C 
>> (Industrial/Commercial) engine, cast iron bore (model 326437, type 
>> 0782-01 code 88102514) "9000 Volt Amps Max, 7200 Watts Rated".  The 
>> engine has a tank on it that holds oil, and it keeps the sump full
somehow, and if it runs out, the engine won't run.
>>
>>   
>>
>> I was having trouble getting a spark until the 'lightbulb' went on 
>> (in my brain, that is) and I topped up the oil tank.  Instant spark 
>> (after a lot of pull-rope wrapping and pulling, huffing and puffing.)  
>> I had already cleaned the varnish out of the carb, so I was able to 
>> get it to run a little, but not much, it would die when I took off 
>> the choke.  I came back the next day, after charging the starting 
>> battery up, and got it running again easily - BUT - geez, was this 
>> suddenly a smoke machine!  Total fog bank!!  When I realized it 
>> wasn't going to clear out on its own, I shut it down, then had to 
>> wait for about 10 minutes as I watched smoke roll up and out of my 
>> old garage door.  This is on the house that burned 2 years ago, and that
smoke was like a bad flashback.
>>
>>   
>>
>> I can only suppose that somehow, there's  a vacuum line or something 
>> sucking oil into the carburetor.  However, I have only seen a couple 
>> pictures other B&S engines with the oil tank (both on this same model 
>> generator,) and I haven't seen any manuals showing them.  Where can I
learn about this system?
>> I assume the "type" of the engine includes this feature, but I've not 
>> found any info at all about the "type" codes.  If I just  knew what 
>> the tank or the system was called, I'd be able to do a search.  It's 
>> too dark out there to get a picture of mine now, but these pics show the
generator I have.
>>
>>   
>>
>> TRACTOR CONTENT: I still haven't tried patching my old radiator on 
>> the MF135.  We don't have any outside faucets on the new house yet 
>> (plumbers are still here every day, who knows when this will be a 
>> priority for them.) and I need to clean off the radiator before I can 
>> work on it.  Planning to try JB Weld before I order a new one.
>>
>>   
>>
>> Scott in Penfield NY
>>

Looks like the cap on the tank is the wrong one and isn't sealing. They need
the tank to be sealed or they will dump extra oil into the engine and cause
it to smoke.

That valve in the line serves as the control for the oil level.
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Steve W.
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