[AT] OT - Old generator blowing smoke

Cecil Bearden crbearden at copper.net
Sat Sep 24 22:00:19 PDT 2016


With that engine, and running the generator at full power, you will have 
to refill that tank at least every 2 hours.  Just check the oil when you 
refill.

Cecil in OKla


On 9/24/2016 11:51 PM, Scott Williams wrote:
> Ahhh.  The cap is the correct one, but it is broken around the top, threads
> separated from the top of the cap most of the way around.  I noticed one of
> the pics I found online had a rubber stopper in it (like the one I had in my
> inground pool to winterize one of the jets.)  Makes me think the tank cap
> was prone to fail.  I'll take a look at mine, it may be repairable with JB
> Weld or something like that.
>
> Perhaps it would be best to just do away with the system - but it seemed
> like such a good idea, why not get it working?  I guess the answer may be,
> added complexity is the last thing you need, when you need a generator.
>
> Scott in Penfield NY
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>> On 9/23/2016 9:59 PM, Scott Williams wrote:
>>> This isn't exactly on topic, but I've been working on an old
>>> generator I got at an auction.  It's a Dayton Professional Brushless
>>> Generator from 1988, it has a Briggs & Stratton 16HP I/C
>>> (Industrial/Commercial) engine, cast iron bore (model 326437, type
>>> 0782-01 code 88102514) "9000 Volt Amps Max, 7200 Watts Rated".  The
>>> engine has a tank on it that holds oil, and it keeps the sump full
> somehow, and if it runs out, the engine won't run.
>>>    
>>>
>>> I was having trouble getting a spark until the 'lightbulb' went on
>>> (in my brain, that is) and I topped up the oil tank.  Instant spark
>>> (after a lot of pull-rope wrapping and pulling, huffing and puffing.)
>>> I had already cleaned the varnish out of the carb, so I was able to
>>> get it to run a little, but not much, it would die when I took off
>>> the choke.  I came back the next day, after charging the starting
>>> battery up, and got it running again easily - BUT - geez, was this
>>> suddenly a smoke machine!  Total fog bank!!  When I realized it
>>> wasn't going to clear out on its own, I shut it down, then had to
>>> wait for about 10 minutes as I watched smoke roll up and out of my
>>> old garage door.  This is on the house that burned 2 years ago, and that
> smoke was like a bad flashback.
>>>    
>>>
>>> I can only suppose that somehow, there's  a vacuum line or something
>>> sucking oil into the carburetor.  However, I have only seen a couple
>>> pictures other B&S engines with the oil tank (both on this same model
>>> generator,) and I haven't seen any manuals showing them.  Where can I
> learn about this system?
>>> I assume the "type" of the engine includes this feature, but I've not
>>> found any info at all about the "type" codes.  If I just  knew what
>>> the tank or the system was called, I'd be able to do a search.  It's
>>> too dark out there to get a picture of mine now, but these pics show the
> generator I have.
>>>    
>>>
>>> TRACTOR CONTENT: I still haven't tried patching my old radiator on
>>> the MF135.  We don't have any outside faucets on the new house yet
>>> (plumbers are still here every day, who knows when this will be a
>>> priority for them.) and I need to clean off the radiator before I can
>>> work on it.  Planning to try JB Weld before I order a new one.
>>>
>>>    
>>>
>>> Scott in Penfield NY
>>>
> Looks like the cap on the tank is the wrong one and isn't sealing. They need
> the tank to be sealed or they will dump extra oil into the engine and cause
> it to smoke.
>
> That valve in the line serves as the control for the oil level.
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