[AT] Semi-OT Dixon ZTR mower front tires

Sun Sep 18 08:13:56 PDT 2016

Thanks for the replies on the tires.  Seems the consensus is that slime
will work if done properly.  I have some so I'll try it.  I think I'll 
literally
"paint" the inside of the tire with it and then "paint" the beads after I 
get
the tires remounted.  I've never even opened the container I have so I
won't know if that is possible until I take a look.  If I can that should 
deal with
the fact that the tires aren't going to turn a lot and "sling" the slime 
around.
I've already tried commercial tire bead sealer and it didn't work.   I think 
the
tires have just gotten hard on the beads.  I'm tempted to wet them with
brake fluid to cause them to swell some but if that works at all it would be 
a
temporary fix probably resulting in buying new tires soon.

I don't mind buying new tires for it but I don't want to do that and find 
out they
do the same thing.   I bought this mower from a friend who used it in his 
small time
lawn care business.  He took great care of it and it's in great shape except 
these tires.
I asked and he said they never went flat on him and they didn't go flat on 
me for the
first two seasons.

Charlie

-----Original Message----- 
From: Indiana Robinson
Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2016 8:57 AM
To: Antique tractor email discussion group
Subject: Re: [AT] Semi-OT Dixon ZTR mower front tires

I use a lot of Green Slime in tires including the kind for tube type tires.
It serves me very well...
I don't like most sealers like Fix-a-flat because it makes such a hard to
remove mess in the tires. With the green slime if you do need to later work
on the tire all it takes a minute with a garden hose to quickly flush it
all out cleanly.
My biggest tire problem is on those little cheap crappy tires on garden
wagons, 2 wheel dollies etc. I have accumulated quite a herd of them since
I am not as able as I used to be and my badly arthritic back doesn't like
carrying stuff around much.
I have a large Garden-Way cart that I like a lot especially for a few
bales. Those big bicycle tires on a heavier wheel really roll easy. I just
bought a new pair of tires and tube for it this summer but don't have them
on it yet. The old ones are the originals from 1970 or so.
I have a "muck" cart from Rural King that holds those plastic tubs (and
many other things) that we use a lot. It works well for a few bags of feed,
2 bales or a salt block. 50 pounds weighs more than it used to...  :-)
We have a regular appliance dolly that we also got around 1970 that has
often been a life-saver in moving all manner of stuff.
I get used to using them and get ticked off when I want to use one and it
has a flat. Green-slime works well...
A few of them have solid tires of one kind or another including some on
cast iron. Those rarely go flat.  :-)

farmer

On Sat, Sep 17, 2016 at 11:10 PM, markagreer <markagreer at embarqmail.com>
wrote:

> Nope. There is a sealer made for that though. My wife's car has alloy
> wheels and they leak around the bead if you don't use the sealer.
>
>
> Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
> -------- Original message --------From: David Rotigel <rotigel at me.com>
> Date: 9/17/16  10:18 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: Antique tractor email discussion
> group <at at lists.antique-tractor.com> Subject: Re: [AT] Semi-OT Dixon ZTR
> mower front tires
> Slime is great stuff but, I would not think that Slime would seal the
> tubeless tire to the rim.
>         Dave
>
> > On Sep 17, 2016, at 4:04 PM, Len Rugen <rugenl at yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > It may be a pain, but tubes may be better than slime, if you don't have
> any thorns.  If you have thorns, try slime.  It may be time for new tires.
> I've been tempted to find some tire/wheel assemblies that have the "no 
> air"
> tires.
> > I have a finish mower that has 4 small tube-type wheels.  If I run them
> at the recommended pressure, they pop off the beads.  If I run them at
> 15-20, they are OK, but they look low, so I miss it when they are low.  If
> they go flat, they usually cut the stem off the tube.
> >
> > Len Rugen
> >
> > rugenl at yahoo.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >    On Saturday, September 17, 2016 2:58 PM, Jason <dejoodster at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >
> > A lot of those small tires are crap these days.  Some sort of sealant
> > should do the job. Just put it in and run them a while to coat them.
> >
> > On Sat, Sep 17, 2016, 1:29 PM charlie hill <charliehill at embarqmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> I've got some slime here but it's the kind for automotive tires and
> >> I don't know if these mower tires turn fast enough to get it evenly
> >> distributed.  I thought about painting the beads with it.
> >>
> >> Charlie
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Mike M
> >> Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2016 12:56 PM
> >> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
> >> Subject: Re: [AT] Semi-OT Dixon ZTR mower front tires
> >>
> >> Had the same problem with my garden tractor that i now use as a butt
> >> buggy. A can of Slime took care of the problem, for under $10 it's
> >> cheaper and easier than a tube.
> >>
> >> Mike M
> >>
> >>
> >> On 9/17/2016 12:34 PM, Steve Offiler wrote:
> >>> Charlie did you check valve stems?  I have this exact problem on my DR
> >>> mower.  Valve stem rubber is aging and cracking.  Holds air OK,
> meaning I
> >>> can inflate and use the machine all day, but it's flat again in a few
> >>> days.  If the stem is moved around you get audible hissing.  This
> reminds
> >>> me I've got to deal with it soon. That machine is my snowblower too.
> >>>
> >>> SO
> >>>
> >>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>
> >>>> On Sep 17, 2016, at 11:57 AM, charlie hill <
> charliehill at embarqmail.com>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Guys I've got a Dixon Commercial grade ZTR mower.
> >>>> The front caster wheel tires are 11 x 4-5 tubeless.
> >>>> All of a sudden last fall I started having the front tires
> >>>> go flat.  They are in good shape.  I finally, early this spring,
> >>>> took them off the rims and wire brushed the bead of the
> >>>> rims to remove what little bit of surface rust and crud that
> >>>> had built up and there wasn't much.  Then I cleaned the
> >>>> bead of the tires with a solvent type cleaner that I hoped would
> >>>> soften them a bit.  I put them back on the rims and pumped them
> >>>> up and immersed the entire mess into a bucket of water.  NO leaks
> >>>> on either tire.  I put them back on the machine, mowed the yard one
> >>>> time and the next time I went to the mower they were flat again.
> >>>> So, I got some beat sealer compound and put on the beads.  Same
> result.
> >>>> Has anyone got a clue how to fix this problem?
> >>>>
> >>>> I'm thinking tubes or just having the tires foam filled.  Opinions
> >>>> welcome.
> >>>> Also does anyone know what size tube fits in an 11 x 4-5 tire?
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks, I'm sick of pumping those tires up.  The only leak I've ever
> >>>> found
> >>>> was
> >>>> around the bead.  I'm pretty certain there are no holes in the tires.
> >>>>
> >>>> Charlie
> >>>>
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