[AT] D10/D12

Gunnells, Bradley R brad-gunnells at uiowa.edu
Thu Sep 8 12:47:25 PDT 2016


Yes the model “E” Gleaner used the 226ci engine. I had one for a few years. When I scrapped the combine I kept the engine hoping to find a D17 in need. So far haven’t run across one.

Brad

On 9/8/16, 7:47 AM, "at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com on behalf of David Steinich" <at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com on behalf of dsteinich at gmail.com> wrote:

    My mistake, they must have stamped the D10/12 engine numbers like the CA
    tractors - on the left rear flange of the engine.
    Could it be you've only seen replacement blocks or those with numbers
    hidden under paint?
    I've heard of transplanting into a D17 from Gleaners (model E maybe), that
    would be the bigger 226 engine (same family as the WC/WD/WD45/D17/170). You
    do need to put the tractor governor on it as part of the switch.
    
    On Sat, Sep 3, 2016 at 10:58 AM charlie hill <charliehill at embarqmail.com>
    wrote:
    
    > David there is a casting number located as you mentioned but
    > I've never seen any actual serial numbers on an AC block.  In addition
    > to what you said about the 160 engine, wasn't that 160 or something
    > similar available in some of the Gleaner combines?   Seems to me there
    > was a gas powered combine engine that was an easy transplant into
    > the D series tractors.
    >
    > Charlie
    >
    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: David Steinich
    > Sent: Friday, September 02, 2016 6:24 PM
    > To: Antique tractor email discussion group
    > Subject: Re: [AT] D10/D12
    >
    > Externally that block is the same as the 160ci in the D15 series two,
    > making a swap possible. Internally they are different, causing the 160
    > rebuild to be a lot more expensive. I think there should be serial numbers
    > on the blocks (behind or to the rear of the carb) and casting numbers that
    > could help identify the motor's origin.
    >
    > On Fri, Sep 2, 2016, 3:21 PM charlie hill <charliehill at embarqmail.com>
    > wrote:
    >
    > > Ray,  I've seen that repair done before.   I don't obviously know how
    > > yours
    > > was done
    > > but the surface I'm talking about is the upward sloping portion of the
    > > torque tube
    > > flange looking from the centerline of the torque tube up.  It's below the
    > > fuel shut off
    > > and sediment bowl.  Anyway if you can't see it you can't.  I'll study on
    > > it
    > > and see if there
    > > is another way to tell.  I know that the rear wheel spacing on the D-12
    > is
    > > two inches wider
    > > in the narrowest position than the D-10.   The early D-10/12 had a 138 Cu
    > > inch engine.  The
    > > later ones were an identical block with 149 CI displacement after a
    > > certain
    > > serial number which
    > > we can't see.  There are some rebuild kits that punch it up to 153 CI if
    > > I'm
    > > remembering right.
    > >
    > > Charlie
    > >
    > > -----Original Message-----
    > > From: Ray Trimble
    > > Sent: Friday, September 02, 2016 2:40 PM
    > > To: at at lists.antique-tractor.com
    > > Subject: [AT] D10/D12
    > >
    > >     Charlie, in this tractors past history the bottom of the torque tube
    > > had
    > > a failure, its gone. Acradle was built, the wishbone member that goes to
    > > the
    > > front end is attached to this cradle at the rear.This cradle attaches to
    > > the
    > > sides of the tube covering the identifation. This looks heavy so I'am not
    > > going to remove it.
    > >     One thing interesting, I was told this tractor has a larger
    > > displacement
    > > engine than most d1-/d12s.
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