[AT] synthetic oil - gas versus diesel trucks

Dean VP deanvp at att.net
Thu Nov 17 16:31:58 PST 2016


Mike,

Didn't mean to imply the F350 SRW would have a higher payload or have better
towing capacity than a Dually.  I just don't like the extra width of a
dually and it's less traction when empty.

Dean VP
Snohomish, WA 98290

It's better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6. 

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[mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of Mike M
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Subject: Re: [AT] synthetic oil - gas versus diesel trucks

Not sure about that Dean, the new Dodge dually  with the 6.4 Hemi will pull
in the mid 16K range.

Mike M


On 11/17/2016 4:52 PM, Dean VP wrote:
> I purchased a New 2003 Ford F250 7.3 Liter Diesel and now have 180,000 
> plus miles on it. 10 of the 13 years I pulled a 38' Montana 3400RL 5th 
> wheel with it over 4,000 miles a year in mountains. Only trouble I've 
> had with it other than normal wear items is the Alternator which died 
> in the 1st year.  A gas engine would not have been able to handle the 
> 13,000 lb 5th wheel.  Averaged over 12 MPG pulling the 5th wheel.  
> Could get 20 mpg on open highway if I stayed under 60 MPH.  MY only regret
was that I bought a F250 rather than a
> F350.   I purchased the F250 because it had more towing capacity(equipment
> trailer) than the F350. Didn't consider we would be buying a 5th wheel 
> 3 years later.  The F350 has more payload capacity which id=s the key 
> spec for 5th wheels.  Added air bags to improve the effective payload on
the F250.
> The only difference between a 2003 F250 Camper Special and F350 SRW  
> was an extra leaf in the rear springs. Same engine, transmission, rear 
> axle, brakes, etc.  Would buy a F350 SWR over a F350 Dually.
>
>
> Dean VP
> Snohomish, WA 98290
>
> It's better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6.
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of David Bruce
> Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2016 2:08 PM
> To: Antique tractor email discussion group 
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> Subject: Re: [AT] synthetic oil - gas versus diesel trucks
>
> I determined years ago that my needs were better suited for a gas engine.
>
> Using a new email address in hopes I can reach the list.
>
> David
>
> NW NC
>
>
> On 11/17/2016 3:13 PM, Herb Metz wrote:
>> Good point Grant; don't remember that issue being mentioned in 
>> previous comparisons. Will admit that I don't always seriously 
>> analyze such comparisons.  I will note that I was initially upset 
>> when I found out a couple years ago that my favorite (Dodge Dakota) 
>> pickup did have diesel optional; in Africa. Herb(GA)
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Grant Brians
>> Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2016 2:30 PM
>> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
>> Subject: Re: [AT] synthetic oil - gas versus diesel trucks
>>
>> I made the choice last year to buy two Gasoline vehicles (E350 box 
>> truck and Ford Transit) rather than the Diesel versions of each. 
>> Based on the fuel consumption and lower price per gallon of Gasoline 
>> versus Diesel, I made the right choice for us. I must also say that 
>> the E350 will have exceeded 70,000 miles in the year and the Transit 
>> is about
> 37,000 miles!
>> What I do not know is how many miles each will go ultimately, but it 
>> appears that all of the calculations will work out better. A factor 
>> that is killing me that would still be a problem with Diesel is that 
>> the tires last a fraction as long as they used to on all of our vehicles.
>> Tire life has decreased immensely since the 80s....
>>                Grant Brians - Hollister,California vegetable, herb, 
>> edible flower, fruit and nut and seed farmer
>>
>> On 11/16/2016 1:16 PM, charlie hill wrote:
>>> Gil,  I'm late coming to this conversation but I'll tell you what I 
>>> read in a farm magazine many years ago.  The article said if you 
>>> don't drive a truck (pickup or medium duty) at least 50,000 miles a 
>>> year you can't justify the expense of purchase and maintenance on 
>>> the
> diesel.
>>> That was probably 25 years ago and I'm sure the economics have 
>>> changed over time but it's still a point worth considering.
>>>
>>> Charlie
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: vschwartz1 at comcast.net
>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2016 9:43 PM
>>> To: Antique
>>> Subject: Re: [AT] synthetic oil
>>>
>>> I want to thank everyone who has commented on this thread. It has 
>>> been a most interesting subject and all comments have been very 
>>> enlightening. At my age I have only thought about buying a diesel 
>>> engine pickup and this subject of conversation has helped make up my 
>>> mind. It seems as though buying a diesel engine is like buying 
>>> trouble unless you really need it for work, I don't. Initial cost of 
>>> a diesel never came into the conversation but I know something about 
>>> the initial cost and normal maintenance costs after the warranty 
>>> expires. I think I'll just drive my 04 Hemi a while longer. It has 
>>> done very well and the overhead on it is miniscule.
>>> Thanks to everyone for their comments and information.
>>> Gil
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