[AT] synthetic oil - gas versus diesel trucks

[David Bruce]

Praise the Lord, a post finally showed up - been months now. Guess my 
ISP has been blacklisting ATIS. Never knew antiques tractors were such a 
problem <g>.

If I was hauling. pulling heavy loads diesel would probably be the way 
to go. Since the heaviest thing I have hauled in the last 6 months is 
that rock bar in the PU bed ....

David

NW NC


On 11/17/2016 4:52 PM, Dean VP wrote:
> I purchased a New 2003 Ford F250 7.3 Liter Diesel and now have 180,000 plus
> miles on it. 10 of the 13 years I pulled a 38' Montana 3400RL 5th wheel with
> it over 4,000 miles a year in mountains. Only trouble I've had with it other
> than normal wear items is the Alternator which died in the 1st year.  A gas
> engine would not have been able to handle the 13,000 lb 5th wheel.  Averaged
> over 12 MPG pulling the 5th wheel.  Could get 20 mpg on open highway if I
> stayed under 60 MPH.  MY only regret was that I bought a F250 rather than a
> F350.   I purchased the F250 because it had more towing capacity(equipment
> trailer) than the F350. Didn't consider we would be buying a 5th wheel 3
> years later.  The F350 has more payload capacity which id=s the key spec for
> 5th wheels.  Added air bags to improve the effective payload on the F250.
> The only difference between a 2003 F250 Camper Special and F350 SRW  was an
> extra leaf in the rear springs. Same engine, transmission, rear axle,
> brakes, etc.  Would buy a F350 SWR over a F350 Dually.
>
>
> Dean VP
> Snohomish, WA 98290
>
> It's better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
> [mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of David Bruce
> Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2016 2:08 PM
> To: Antique tractor email discussion group <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> Subject: Re: [AT] synthetic oil - gas versus diesel trucks
>
> I determined years ago that my needs were better suited for a gas engine.
>
> Using a new email address in hopes I can reach the list.
>
> David
>
> NW NC
>
>
> On 11/17/2016 3:13 PM, Herb Metz wrote:
>> Good point Grant; don't remember that issue being mentioned in
>> previous comparisons. Will admit that I don't always seriously analyze
>> such comparisons.  I will note that I was initially upset when I found
>> out a couple years ago that my favorite (Dodge Dakota) pickup did have
>> diesel optional; in Africa. Herb(GA)
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Grant Brians
>> Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2016 2:30 PM
>> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
>> Subject: Re: [AT] synthetic oil - gas versus diesel trucks
>>
>> I made the choice last year to buy two Gasoline vehicles (E350 box
>> truck and Ford Transit) rather than the Diesel versions of each. Based
>> on the fuel consumption and lower price per gallon of Gasoline versus
>> Diesel, I made the right choice for us. I must also say that the E350
>> will have exceeded 70,000 miles in the year and the Transit is about
> 37,000 miles!
>> What I do not know is how many miles each will go ultimately, but it
>> appears that all of the calculations will work out better. A factor
>> that is killing me that would still be a problem with Diesel is that
>> the tires last a fraction as long as they used to on all of our vehicles.
>> Tire life has decreased immensely since the 80s....
>>                Grant Brians - Hollister,California vegetable, herb,
>> edible flower, fruit and nut and seed farmer
>>
>> On 11/16/2016 1:16 PM, charlie hill wrote:
>>> Gil,  I'm late coming to this conversation but I'll tell you what I
>>> read in a farm magazine many years ago.  The article said if you
>>> don't drive a truck (pickup or medium duty) at least 50,000 miles a
>>> year you can't justify the expense of purchase and maintenance on the
> diesel.
>>> That was probably 25 years ago and I'm sure the economics have
>>> changed over time but it's still a point worth considering.
>>>
>>> Charlie
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: vschwartz1 at comcast.net
>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2016 9:43 PM
>>> To: Antique
>>> Subject: Re: [AT] synthetic oil
>>>
>>> I want to thank everyone who has commented on this thread. It has
>>> been a most interesting subject and all comments have been very
>>> enlightening. At my age I have only thought about buying a diesel
>>> engine pickup and this subject of conversation has helped make up my
>>> mind. It seems as though buying a diesel engine is like buying
>>> trouble unless you really need it for work, I don't. Initial cost of
>>> a diesel never came into the conversation but I know something about
>>> the initial cost and normal maintenance costs after the warranty
>>> expires. I think I'll just drive my 04 Hemi a while longer. It has
>>> done very well and the overhead on it is miniscule.
>>> Thanks to everyone for their comments and information.
>>> Gil
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