[AT] synthetic oil

[Stephen Offiler]

I just bought a new truck a few months ago, and I will admit that VW
"Dieselgate" colored my opinion. Some pundit somewhere on the Internet made
a quip about VW that stuck with me:  "It's basically a science fair
experiment from the turbocharger back"

Then, there's the cost.  After sales negotiations and incentives and
rebates etc etc you are looking at about $7000 upcharge for a diesel.  I
like shopping Certified Pre-Owned but it's still somewhere around
$5000-7000 upcharge for the diesel (harder to compare apples-to-apples with
used vehicles) and then all I could find CPO were XLT and Lariat trim
levels, and practically everything is extended cab, short bed.

I ended up with a new 2016 F250 short cab long bed, gas engine.  The Ford
6.2 liter makes 385HP and 440 ft-lb and in mixed driving (loaded, unloaded,
country roads, some city, some highway) it gives 14mpg.  It certainly
drives like the proverbial "Cadillac" in all respects compared to the
outgoing 1997 F-250 with its 205HP 5.8 liter.

I could have done an F150 except I would have wanted the heavy-duty GVWR
package, and again, short cab long bed.  GOOD LUCK finding that truck in an
F150!  Also nudged to the 250 by the idea that I will probably, within the
foreseeable future (5-10 years) park the tractor in winter and put a real
plow on the truck.

SO



On Tue, Nov 15, 2016 at 10:29 PM, <pga2 at basicisp.net> wrote:

> I think you've reached the same conclusion I did several years ago.
> I mentioned to the sales manager at the Ford dealer that I was very
> interested in getting a diesel F-250 and he flatly stated that "If
> you need it to tow or haul heavy loads, fine. If you're only going
> to need that a few days a year, you're wasting your money". His
> main focus was on maintenance costs and the initial outlay for the
> diesel which is substantial when compared with a gas truck. I agreed
> and bought the gas F-150 I drive today.
>
> Phil in TX
>
> --- vschwartz1 at comcast.net wrote:
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> From: vschwartz1 at comcast.net
> To: Antique <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
> Subject: Re: [AT] synthetic oil
> Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2016 02:43:35 +0000 (UTC)
>
> I want to thank everyone who has commented on this thread. It has been a
> most interesting subject and all comments have been very enlightening. At
> my age I have only thought about buying a diesel engine pickup and this
> subject of conversation has helped make up my mind. It seems as though
> buying a diesel engine is like buying trouble unless you really need it for
> work, I don't. Initial cost of a diesel never came into the conversation
> but I know something about the initial cost and normal maintenance costs
> after the warranty expires. I think I'll just drive my 04 Hemi a while
> longer. It has done very well and the overhead on it is miniscule.
> Thanks to everyone for their comments and information.
> Gil
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