[AT] Synthetic Oil

Jason dejoodster at gmail.com
Sun Nov 13 08:06:59 PST 2016


Maybe if the seals were leather I'd be concerned about synthetic but it was
made in last 40 years it should be fine.

On Sun, Nov 13, 2016, 10:04 AM Jason <dejoodster at gmail.com> wrote:

> Not much need for zinc in a small engine because the valve spring tension
> is so low.
>
> On Sun, Nov 13, 2016, 7:38 AM Cecil Bearden <crbearden at copper.net> wrote:
>
>> I had forgotten about the need for ZDDP in the small engines. The cam
>> followers are just flat metal.  I have a box of Lucas oil ZDDP
>> additive.  Will start using it.  I will note that I made the mistake of
>> mixing Lucas break in oil additive in my 2 cycle gas/oil mix once.   It
>> was one of those things you do when in a hurry and not using glasses to
>> read the label.   Both bottles were the same design just thew writing
>> was different.   The engine ran about 10 minutes then died.  No real
>> harm done, it just shorted the spark plug from the deposits on the
>> electrode.   The engine was on one of those 2 cycle pumps that Northern
>> Hyd sells.  Still runs just fine..
>>
>> Cecil in oKla
>>
>>
>> On 11/13/2016 6:38 AM, Stephen Offiler wrote:
>> > I run oils labeled "Motorcycle Oil" in all of my small gasoline engines.
>> > These oils are the older SF/SG service rating, which has signficantly
>> more
>> > ZDDP additive than the most modern oils (service rating SN).  ZDDP is an
>> > extreme-pressure sliding-friction additive that was removed because it
>> > clogs catalytic converters.  There are certain motorcycles, for example
>> BMW
>> > boxer twins, that require SF/SG and they will wear cam lobes more
>> rapidly
>> > if modern oil is used.  Typically found in 10-30, 10-40, and 20-50.  I
>> use
>> > 10-40 in everything but if it gets really cold the 10-30 would be a
>> better
>> > choice.  As for synthetic, probably no reason for it.  Synthetic flows
>> > better at extremely cold temperatures (like for example -10F)  and
>> resists
>> > breakdown at extremely hot temperatures (like for example in small
>> > turbocharged engines).
>> >
>> > SO
>> >
>> >
>> > On Sun, Nov 13, 2016 at 5:40 AM, Steve W. <swilliams268 at frontier.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Dick Day wrote:
>> >>> Dave, as you can tell, I know nothing about motor oils.  The little
>> bit
>> >>> that I've read and heard, leads me to believe that synthetic oil is
>> >> better
>> >>> for the engines.  I am currently using synthetic in the
>> Husqvarna/Briggs
>> >>> because the dealer I ordered it from suggested that when I did the
>> 5-hour
>> >>> oil change that I replace it with synthetic.
>> >>>
>> >>> Is there a reason to not use it?
>> >>>
>> >>> Thanks
>> >> If you do regular oil changes conventional oils are fine. I run
>> >> conventional 10W-30 in most of the small engines, I run 15w-40 in the
>> >> diesel.
>> >>
>> >> I run synthetic in both generators because it seems to work better when
>> >> very cold.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Steve W.
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