[AT] OT LED question

k7jdj at aol.com k7jdj at aol.com
Fri Nov 4 20:31:33 PDT 2016


Charlie,

do a Google search and you will see that the incandescent bulb you are buying is likely halogen.  Halogen are considered a type of incandescent bulb.  The Government rule has to do with efficiency as Steve stated.

Gary

-----Original Message-----
From: charlie hill <charliehill at embarqmail.com>
To: Antique tractor email discussion group <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
Sent: Fri, Nov 4, 2016 3:41 pm
Subject: Re: [AT] OT LED question

There you go again Steve.  I TOLD YOU IT IS A 100 WATT INCANDESCENT BULB.
Did I say anything about a halogen bulb inside a incandescent envelope?
I know you think I'm stupid but give it a break man.  Do you have to argue 
with
EVERYTHING anyone says to you??????????????????????????????

Charlie

-----Original Message----- 
From: Stephen Offiler
Sent: Friday, November 04, 2016 5:47 PM
To: Antique tractor email discussion group
Subject: Re: [AT] OT LED question

The act of Congress that imposed efficiency restrictions on lighting,
effectively outlawing those old-school 100 watt incandescent bulbs, was
signed into law by President Bush in 2007.  It's called the EISA, the
Energy Independence and Security Act.

It is possible to manufacture a 100-watt bulb that meets EISA, with a
halogen bulb inside a normal incandescent glass envelope.  It would be
cheaper to manufacture this design in low-labor-cost countries such as
China.

Why does my local power company  subsidize the purchase of LED bulbs?
Seems backward, doesn't it?  They are going to be selling me less
electricity.

SO


On Fri, Nov 4, 2016 at 4:31 PM, charlie hill <charliehill at embarqmail.com>
wrote:

> I recently found out that I can buy incandescent 100 W bulbs off the shelf
> at
> the convenience store 1 mile from my house!  NO these aren't new old stock
> and
> the store owner didn't stock up before the ban.  They come in every week,
> replenished
> by the service merchandizer and on sale in plain view, not hidden in the
> back room or
> under the counter.  The only thing is .... they are MADE IN CHINA....
> Thousands of American
> jobs lost but the bulbs that were supposedly causing the seas to rise are
> still available.
> SO, I think we now know the REAL reason why they were outlawed.
>
> Charlie
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dick Day
> Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2016 4:08 PM
> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
> Subject: Re: [AT] OT LED question
>
> To add to what Spencer said, this, even grumpier, old man knows that the
> failure rate of most LED's is pretty dismal.  Actually, I believe it's the
> drivers that fail.
>
> I like not using as much electricity and I like the almost instant-on in
> super cold temps but that all comes at a price.
>
> On Wed, Nov 2, 2016 at 2:46 PM, Spencer Yost <yostsw at atis.net> wrote:
>
> > You folks know me:   I try really hard to not be that grumpy old man 
> > that
> > says everything new is terrible.  In fact I don't even have to try all
> > that
> > hard.  Adapting comes naturally.
> >
> > However I am that grumpy old man when it comes to light bulbs tho.... 
> > I
> > hate CFLs and LEDs.   None of them last like they claim and the light
> > quality stinks.
> >
> > You have my sympathy.
> >
> > Tractor/ATIS reference:
> >
> > General purpose LED bulbs are  not dimmable without side effects,  for
> > enclosed housings or rough service.   In fact one LED in a dimmable
> > circuit
> > would make my UPS (that keeps ATIS up during power outages) transformer
> > hum. It was the weirdest thing.   Slide the dimmer down halfway and the
> > UPS
> > would make a racket.   All the way up and it would be fine.   Completely
> > different circuits too.   The bulb itself would dim fine without effect
> > but
> > my UPS hated it.
> >
> > Spencer Yost
> >
> > > On Nov 2, 2016, at 9:50 AM, <rlgoss at twc.com> <rlgoss at twc.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > I had that happen on an LED desk lamp.  It turned out that one portion
> > of the circuitry went open-circuit and the lamp was working at about
> half.
> > The store gave me a replacement for it and everything has been fine 
> > since
> > then.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Larry
> > >
> > > ---- Ron Cook <ron at lakeport-1.com> wrote:
> > >> Based on the discussion here a little over a year ago, I put some LED
> > >> lights here and there.  One being in the kitchen.  Seemed good.
> > >> However,
> > >> lately I have been having trouble seeing well in the kitchen.  Just
> > >> seemed like there was not enough light.  I just screwed the CREE LED
> > >> out
> > >> and installed one of my old 100W incandescent bulbs.  Holy Smokes!!!!
> > >> I
> > >> can see again.  I was getting worried about my eyes.  Why has this
> > >> expensive LED bulb dimmed down??  I think the govmnt stuck it to us
> > >> again like the digital television signal.
> > >>
> > >> Ron
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