[AT] OT LED question

[Dave]

You must BOTH be wrong! The government has told all of us about the goodness of LED bulbs and our government would never lie to us. That’s why I have already cast my vote for the Next President of our nation!
	Dave
PS, Don’t be grumpy. THEY will take care of ALL of us!

> On Nov 2, 2016, at 4:08 PM, Dick Day <dickday0 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> To add to what Spencer said, this, even grumpier, old man knows that the
> failure rate of most LED's is pretty dismal.  Actually, I believe it's the
> drivers that fail.
> 
> I like not using as much electricity and I like the almost instant-on in
> super cold temps but that all comes at a price.
> 
> On Wed, Nov 2, 2016 at 2:46 PM, Spencer Yost <yostsw at atis.net> wrote:
> 
>> You folks know me:   I try really hard to not be that grumpy old man that
>> says everything new is terrible.  In fact I don't even have to try all that
>> hard.  Adapting comes naturally.
>> 
>> However I am that grumpy old man when it comes to light bulbs tho....   I
>> hate CFLs and LEDs.   None of them last like they claim and the light
>> quality stinks.
>> 
>> You have my sympathy.
>> 
>> Tractor/ATIS reference:
>> 
>> General purpose LED bulbs are  not dimmable without side effects,  for
>> enclosed housings or rough service.   In fact one LED in a dimmable circuit
>> would make my UPS (that keeps ATIS up during power outages) transformer
>> hum. It was the weirdest thing.   Slide the dimmer down halfway and the UPS
>> would make a racket.   All the way up and it would be fine.   Completely
>> different circuits too.   The bulb itself would dim fine without effect but
>> my UPS hated it.
>> 
>> Spencer Yost
>> 
>>> On Nov 2, 2016, at 9:50 AM, <rlgoss at twc.com> <rlgoss at twc.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I had that happen on an LED desk lamp.  It turned out that one portion
>> of the circuitry went open-circuit and the lamp was working at about half.
>> The store gave me a replacement for it and everything has been fine since
>> then.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Larry
>>> 
>>> ---- Ron Cook <ron at lakeport-1.com> wrote:
>>>> Based on the discussion here a little over a year ago, I put some LED
>>>> lights here and there.  One being in the kitchen.  Seemed good. However,
>>>> lately I have been having trouble seeing well in the kitchen.  Just
>>>> seemed like there was not enough light.  I just screwed the CREE LED out
>>>> and installed one of my old 100W incandescent bulbs.  Holy Smokes!!!!  I
>>>> can see again.  I was getting worried about my eyes.  Why has this
>>>> expensive LED bulb dimmed down??  I think the govmnt stuck it to us
>>>> again like the digital television signal.
>>>> 
>>>> Ron
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