[AT] Help with Ingersoll compressor

Cecil Bearden crbearden at copper.net
Mon May 16 18:32:58 PDT 2016 

Bo:
Thanks for the call, I also enjoyed visiting..     I think I have found 
the problem.   The small pressure regulator is installed backwards.  The 
way it was connected it could not get pressure to move the diaphragm 
away from the valve.  The speed regulator shuts down the intake valve 
and the small pressure regulator is connected to the back side of the 
diaphragm so that it pushes the intake valve off the seat when the 
pressure drops.   I determined there was something wrong after we talked 
and I looked at the diaphragm body again.    I believe the Oxygen 
regulator will work just fine.  The flow diagram in the book supports my 
theory.   I think that the original pressure regulator was a special one 
in that it had 2 or more inlets.  It was replaced with one that had 3 
outlets and the installer just connected the lines to the easiest 
outlets.   With a tee and a couple of nipples, it should be working 
fine.     I think I am going to replace that copper tubing with some  
plastic DOT air lines so I don't have to worry about cross threading 
those stiff lines and connections..

Thanks again.   The level of experience and vast knowledge of this group 
is really amazing!!!  I hope I can return the favor...

Cecil in OKla


On 5/16/2016 6:56 PM, Bo Hinch wrote:
> Received message awhile ago and have had SOo much company that I couldn't
> respond , but just did a minute or so ago . Hope that helps and if not ,
> let me know and will do what I can for you .
>
> On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 4:59 PM, Cecil Bearden <crbearden at copper.net> wrote:
>
>> Bo:
>> I sent you a PM offline...
>>
>> Cecil in OKla
>>>>> On 5/16/2016 11:32 AM, Bo Hinch wrote:
>>>>>> What kind of info do you need .
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 10:42 AM, Ken Knierim <ken.knierim at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> Cecil,
>>>>>>>         As a manufacturer who designs, builds and supports complex
>>>>> equipment,
>>>>>>> putting together a manual most people will throw away isn't always a
>>>>> paying
>>>>>>> use of resources either... and the lack of manual-reading is directly
>>>>>>> related to people thinking they know everything (on target with your
>>>>>>> comments about parts-changers coming out of school). A lot of people
>> are
>>>>>>> crashing through their lives so fast they don't take the time needed
>> to
>>>>>>> learn to do the job right. Why read a map or manual when google knows
>>>>> all?
>>>>>>> Or they'll call in for support after the warranty period has expired,
>>>>> want
>>>>>>> answers without wanting to pay for them, and won't crack the manual.
>>>>>>>         We're working a different strategy on some of our newer
>> stuff...
>>>>> we're
>>>>>>> putting some of the PDF's on our website to let the webcrawlers pick
>>>>> them
>>>>>>> up so folks CAN find and get access to the manuals when they finally
>>>>> decide
>>>>>>> they need them. I wouldn't really expect a company that's been bought
>>>>> and
>>>>>>> sold to have a lot of older manuals online but I've had good luck
>>>>> finding
>>>>>>> home-scanned versions by looking for the product name and putting
>> manual
>>>>>>> and a .pdf in the search criterion. Not sure it'll help, but might be
>>>>> worth
>>>>>>> a shot.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hope this helps,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ken in AZ
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 8:00 AM, Cecil Bearden <crbearden at copper.net
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I need some help with the Gyro Flo Vane compressor I bought last
>> week
>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> sandblast and clean out my old baler.  I thought one of you guys had
>>>>>>>> some experience with these..  The pressure is too high and it is
>> bowing
>>>>>>>> the relief valve.  It runs as high as 185-190 psi. Ingersoll Gyro
>> Flo
>>>>>>>> was bought by Doosan in NC in 2007..    A lot of information is just
>>>>> non
>>>>>>>> existent and none of the "experts online" can give any real help.
>>>>>     Most
>>>>>>>> of these online "experts just say that the unit is not worth
>> repairing
>>>>>>>> and to buy a new one.    I could not even afford a 10 year old one
>> with
>>>>>>>> 1/2 the output of this one!!!    There is just no diagnosis ability
>>>>>>>> anymore.   The mechanics that are coming out of the trade schools
>> have
>>>>>>>> no idea how to repair anything.  They just change parts.   The
>>>>>>>> manufacturers don't give out service literature anymore, they get a
>>>>>>>> fortune for it, so ther is not a lot floating around out there.  I
>>>>> blame
>>>>>>>> a lot of this B.S. on plain old GREED, and the other on not having
>> high
>>>>>>>> school shop classes anymore.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On another note, we now have to pay for all those "smart"
>> innovations
>>>>> on
>>>>>>>> the new cars and trucks due to the new drivers not paying attention
>> to
>>>>>>>> their driving, their smartphone needs to be looked at 59 minutes an
>>>>>>>> hour.  Maybe just maybe if we put Drivers education back in the high
>>>>>>>> schools, the new drivers would have some idea how to safely drive...
>>>>>>>> If someone was not paying attention back when we were driving in
>> H.S.
>>>>>>>> the "coach" would stomp on the brake ( in a safe area) and your nose
>>>>>>>> would hit the steering wheel!!  He then would tell the driver and
>> the
>>>>>>>> rest of the passengers what would have happened if the driver had
>>>>>>>> continued...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Now they drive like they are playing a video game....
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Rant off...   I am just so frustrated with trying to get an
>> operating
>>>>>>>> compressor so I can go back to work.   The Sullair and the Leroi
>> both
>>>>>>>> need that blasted Ford 140 OHC engine overhauled.
>>>>>>>> My problem now is I don't have budget, help, time, and physical
>> ability
>>>>>>>> to get things done now...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cecil in OKla
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