[AT] I'll bet somebody here knows,,,,,,,,,,,

[Dean VP]

I don't know about other than JD antique tractors but the all Fuel versions
wouldn't skip a beat and I suspect even the gas versions of any brand from
the 30's and 40's wouldn't either. None were very high compression engines,
even the gas versions. In fact some JD collectors recommend putting a cup of
diesel fuel in the gas to do the upper combustion chamber lubrication that
lead used to do.   I am unable to see how you could get into trouble, or
create trouble for anyone else buy just burning this mixed fuel off in Lawn
and Garden and old antique tractors.  I know the old JD Two Cylinder "All
Fuel" tractors would run on just about anything, Distillate, Diesel Fuel,
Kerosene, Furnace oil, on and on.  It wouldn't surprise me if a heavy oil,
gas mix would work. Very low compression, low RPM, long burn cycle engine.
Supposedly if one is planning to run continually on unleaded gas, hardened
valve seats are needed. There are very few of us that work our antique
tractors very hard for long periods of time.   I suspect there are sources
of pollutant that far exceed that which would be generated burning off this
odd mix of fuel. I burned off 20 gallons worth and the neighbors and all the
animals in the neighborhood are still alive.  :-)  I didn't worry about it
because I honestly believe  any added air pollution was insignificant. A
non-event IMHO.

Dean VP
Snohomish, WA 98290

It's better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6. 

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I'd be awful tempted to dump it in and go, especially if the furnace tank is
pretty empty and will be topped off with fuel oil, but that's my opinion.
I've never heard of diesel and gas not mixing but don't know enough about it
to say for sure.  Do you know somebody with an old JD two cylinder set up
for all-fuel? Bet it'd burn it with no problem!
  Otherwise, burn your brush pile with it at night!

Al

On Fri, Jun 10, 2016 at 12:33 PM, Bo Hinch <bohinch at gmail.com> wrote:
> I would NOT burn it in anything , PERIOD . my life and health is worth 
> more than a few gallons of diesel and gas mixed . It could / can be 
> very dangerous . Just my 2 cents worth .
>
> On Thu, Jun 9, 2016 at 10:33 PM, Mike M <meulenms at gmx.com> wrote:
>
>> Al, I can only parrot what others have said, sneak it into a modern 
>> vehicle a few gallons at a time. The computer will make any 
>> adjustments necessary. If you're in a  hurry to be done with it, take 
>> it to a TSC or other place that accepts used oil and dump it in. The 
>> 17 year old kid won't know the difference and by the time it's mixed 
>> with the 1000 other gallons of oil no one else will either.
>>
>> Mike M
>>
>>
>>
>> On 6/9/2016 7:18 PM, Alan Nadeau wrote:
>> > I've got a little bit of a problem.
>> >
>> > I had a couple gallons of gasoline left in a can after fueling up 
>> > the
>> Ford 4000 tractor ( antique tractor reference) at my shooting club.
>> >
>> > New guy did some mowing with out Kubota Zero-turn mower.  Being a
>> conscientious sort he fueled the mower after he was done with.  With 
>> the gasoline!
>> >
>> > I started some mowing yesterday afternoon and within a few minutes 
>> > the
>> mower was running ragged and losing power.  Checked and both tanks 
>> were full.  One should have been down a couple gallons so I got a 
>> real bad feeling.  Checked the can that had had gas in it.  Empty.
>> >
>> > I called the mower operator and he had only put gas in one tank.  I
>> siphoned out all I could, then disconnected the fuel line at the 
>> injector pump and then ran the primary pump (electric) until all I got
was air.
>> Then I swapped tanks and ran it again, long enough to flush the lines.
>> Hooked the line back up and fired up the engine, it stumbled for a 
>> few seconds then smoothed out and ran fine for a half hour or so 
>> while I finished what mowing I needed to do.
>> >
>> > Maybe dodged a bullet on that one.
>> >
>> > The problem I want opinions on now is that I have 6 gallons of 4
>> diesel/2gasoline mix that I need to dispose of.  I'm not about to 
>> dump it on the ground.  It's way too much to think of using to light 
>> up a brushpile, the resulting black smoke would be seen for miles.  
>> Thought seriously of just adding it to the 275 gallon fuel tank for 
>> the clubhouse furnace.
>> >
>> > I find it hard to believe but one of the clubs' 
>> > experts-on-everything
>> insists that the diesel/gas combination will not mix but will 
>> separate out and end up causing serious trouble with the furnace.  I 
>> find it hard to believe it might be true.
>> >
>> > Does anyone here have any knowledge of, or educated opinion on, the
>> subject?
>> >
>> > Al Nadeau
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