[AT] more old balers

[John Hall]

Thanks Ken, glad to hear you had good luck with it. What size engine was 
on it, a 4 cylinder? My Super 66 has a 2 cylinder and we know when we 
get to pushing a little hard as the governors really make it bark and 
the belts start to squeal. The baler I am looking at is PTO drive, we'll 
either pull it with a 454 IH or 4020 Deere.

John Hall


On 6/18/2016 4:32 PM, Ken Knierim wrote:
> We ran a 282 for years (eastern Montana) and had good service. I heard a
> lot of folks cuss Wisconsins but the one on this 282 always started and ran
> fine if you primed the fuel pump (manual lever on the pump). Run good
> twine, make sure you have a supply of shear pins and maintain it and it'll
> do well. (I think my uncle still has it after 40 years) They are heavy; it
> was a bit much for the 9N to drag around fast. The JD A did well because
> it's got a wide torque band and we could throttle back for heavy windrows.
> We used it like a variable speed to get somewhere between 18 and 22 strokes
> per bale (if I remember. it's been 30 years...). That baler tended to
> either shake the hitches loose or OFF the tractor it was coupled to. (the A
> never fully recovered).
>
> One failure we saw repeatedly was it would break the axle on the heavy
> side. This was because it had a dual tire (factory option maybe?) on that
> side to prevent it from sinking into soft ground and it end-loaded
> (cantilevered?) the shaft and broke it from time to time (I remember at
> least twice; once I about ate the steering wheel and the 9N front came WAY
> up before I clutched). If you break the axle and drop the baler the cage
> under the needles can get bent. We always checked it to make sure it didn't
> get too far out of line. And if it's been sitting awhile you may want to
> make sure the plunger block/interlock on the needles is free and smooth. It
> blocks the plunger if the needles are cycling and if it doesn't pull back
> when they're done the main flywheel shear pin dies. There's also a shear
> pin on the knotter drive and they're different sizes. We would hit heavy
> enough material (or a tree branch!) or it would work loose occasionally and
> we would loose a main flywheel shear pin about weekly under heavy service.
> We kept the toolbox stocked. I'd look to see if someone has used regular
> bolts rather than genuine parts (NH's were black oxide and had a
> distinctive locknut). We were warned not to use regular bolts because it
> might take out the plunger gearbox.
>
> In retrospect I would probably look at a that axle and use a wider single
> rim these days and run a lower tire pressure to absorb rough ground impact.
> Watch for standard wear parts (we used it enough we had to replace pickup
> teeth and guards and some idlers several times) and grease it regularly
> (Dad's mantra). Not sure about parts availability but I ran it when fairly
> new. I don't recall replacing much beyond a few wear parts unless we fed it
> a badger hole or some wood. Get a manual though; it'll tell you how to set
> up the timing if you have to replace a chain or something and you want that
> right.
>
> They (uncles and Dad) had a tractor-pulled New Holland bale wagon and we
> made a fair number of bales per year.
>
> I can still hear that Wisconsin wailing and the kaLUMPachikaLUMPachika of
> the plungers and tines. :)
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Ken in AZ
>
> On Sat, Jun 18, 2016 at 10:39 AM, John Hall <jtchall at nc.rr.com> wrote:
>
>> I guess this is kind of on topic since these are 40+ years old.
>>
>> Went today to look at a 273 New Holland baler. Not too bad but mighty
>> rusty, been sitting outside. Price is a little high if you ask me. Next
>> stop I looked at a 282 New Holland--big son of a gun. My understanding
>> is it has a larger bale chamber and is supposedly a big capacity baler.
>> Has hydraulic bale tensioner--never seen one around here. Also has close
>> together pick-up fingers. Its shed kept, off of a dairy farm. Hasn't
>> been ran in 20 years or so, alttle rusty from sitting. Anything I should
>> watch out for on the 282?
>>
>> John Hall
>>
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