[AT] Brake controllers revisited

Dennis Johnson moscowengnr at outlook.com
Fri Jun 3 09:50:25 PDT 2016


I paid extra for brakes on both axles of my 10K trailer, and the supplier only put it on 1. Think I got a discount, but still upset it only has brake on 1 axle. I had something waiting to haul ASAP or I would have left it there to get fixed.

Thanks,
Dennis


Sent from my iPad

> On Jun 3, 2016, at 10:14 AM, Vaughn Miller <vemiller at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I've never seen a trailer greater than 3000# gross weight for sale that
> didn't have brakes on all axles.
> 
> Vaughn
> 
>> On Fri, Jun 3, 2016 at 9:58 AM, <rlgoss at twc.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Uhh, in some states, both axles have to have operable brakes.  It varies
>> from state to state.  There are still some who require no licensing or
>> inspection of trailers, and others where the requirements are based on the
>> gross weight of the empty trailer where you have to have a current weigh
>> slip.  Once that is available for inspection, the BMV makes a decision
>> about whether or not you even need a title for it.
>> 
>> 
>> Larry
>> ---- Dennis Johnson <moscowengnr at outlook.com> wrote:
>>> Dean,
>>> 
>>> I do not believe that is the case. Most utility trailers are built with
>> single axle brakes. This may be true for larger semi type trailers.
>>> 
>>> Not sure that controller brand is that important. To me find one that is
>> available locally. Service may be more important than brand if you have
>> someone else install it or service it.
>>> 
>>> Thanks
>>> Dennis
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>> 
>>>> On Jun 3, 2016, at 7:24 AM, deanvp <deanvp at att.net> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Richard, Having brakes on both axles may be required by law.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone being used by a dumb
>> operator.
>>>> 
>>>> -------- Original message --------
>>>> From: Alan  Nadeau <ajnadeau1 at myfairpoint.net>
>>>> Date: 6/3/16  1:32 AM  (GMT-08:00)
>>>> To: Antique tractor email discussion group <
>> at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: [AT] Brake controllers revisited
>>>> 
>>>> In the past I have used Tekonsha brake controllers with complete
>>>> satisfaction.
>>>> 
>>>> To upgrade to second axle brakes will require more than the backing
>> plates.
>>>> 
>>>> The non-brake axles usually have the flange, for attaching the backing
>>>> plates, already welded to the axle tube.  If not, there will be the
>> expense
>>>> of acquiring and attaching those flanges(I'm not sure I have ever seen
>> those
>>>> flanges being available as a separate part).  The axle probably also
>> has
>>>> "idler hubs" now which have no provision for brake drums.  The brake
>> drums
>>>> are machined as part of the hub so upgrading to "brake hubs" requires
>> the
>>>> purchase of new hubs as well as the backing plates.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Richard Walker" <richardwalker at pobox.com>
>>>> To: "Antique tractor email discussion group" <
>> at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>>>> Sent: Friday, June 03, 2016 1:24 AM
>>>> Subject: [AT] Brake controllers revisited
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> A year or two ago there was an informative thread about electronic
>> brake
>>>>> controllers.  Not sure how to search for it.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Am moving from California to Oregon soon, hauling a lot of stuff, and
>>>>> need to fit my F-250 with a controller for my twin-axle trailer having
>>>>> existing electric brakes on one of its two axles. My last experience
>>>>> with a controller was thirty years ago with the mechanical kind that
>>>>> plumbed into the brake lines.  So I'm kind of clueless about today's
>>>>> electronic controllers.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Any recommendations for brands and models?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Also would it be advisable to add electric brakes to the axle without?
>>>>> So I'd have two axles with brakes?  Cost seems to be around $100 for
>> two
>>>>> new backing plate kits, so I'm thinking that might be cheap insurance.
>>>>> There are some steep grades between Southern CA and Northern OR.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Richard
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
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