[AT] Off Topic not intended to be political

[charlie hill]

Yeah I'm sure there have been some good uses of Golden Leaf money
but what NC did was wrong if not illegal.  You are right about the allotment
cuts.  I was betting they would cut them down more than they did.  I think 
ours
was less than half of it's all time high when they finally bought it out.
One of my friends is a better gambler than I'll ever be.  He started buying 
allotments
from small farms in our county and one or two adjoining counties.  When they 
finally
did the buy out he got over 1 million for his but it should have been over 2 
million.
He took a heck of a risk but it paid off for him.

If you figure in the time value of the money.  NC's deal cost us well over 
half of what we
should have gotten compared to the other states.  Even if the money does go 
to a good
cause, every time I hear that the Golden Leaf foundation funded something I 
feel like
I failed to get my kiss and cigarette.

Charlie

-----Original Message----- 
From: Al Jones
Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2016 11:58 PM
To: Antique tractor email discussion group
Subject: Re: [AT] Off Topic not intended to be political

Even better was the way they cut the allotments to just about nothing
before they bought them out!

Al

PS It's not all liberal causes that get the money.  A lot of FFA
programs have received grants from Golden Leaf.  But I agree the
allotment holders should have gotten it all--allotments were assets
not some abstract thing floating around out there.....

On Sun, Jul 24, 2016 at 11:47 AM, charlie hill
<charliehill at embarqmail.com> wrote:
> Ralph,  It's 11:35 AM here.  It's 88 degrees with 77% humidity and
> a heat index of 100 degs (feels like 100).   Predicted high today is 94.
> For the upcoming week.
> Monday  95
> Tue          95
> Wed.       97
> Thurs       95
> Fri             98
> Sat             98
> Lowest low during that period is 74.
>
> Yeah it was the same with the tobacco allotments.  They allowed
> a lot of farmers to farm tobacco and survive but none but the
> ones who started with the most land and allotment could thrive.
> I'm glad they are gone.   The thing that really burns me is that in
> most of the states (I'll use Virginia as an example) when the allotments
> were bought out (by the tobacco companies, not the government by the way)
> the farmers and land owners were issued a check for their pro-rata portion
> of
> the payout.  But NO, not good old NC.  The people in charge here when that
> happened took half of the money and put it in a political slush fund they
> call
> the "Brightleaf Foundation" and paid the other half out to the farmers in 
> 10
> yearly installments with no interest.  It only cost my family (mom, sister
> and I)
> about 30,000 bucks.  It cost one of my friends nearly 1 million.  So now,
> every
> time I hear that the brightleaf foundation has done some wonderful thing 
> for
> some liberal cause (only liberal causes seem to get funded)
> I get blazing mad because they are spending MY MONEY!
>
> Charlie
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ralph Goff
> Sent: Friday, July 22, 2016 11:37 AM
> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
> Subject: Re: [AT] Off Topic not intended to be political
>
> On 7/22/2016 9:11 AM, charlie hill wrote:
>> Thanks Ralph,
>>
>> Marketing is always tricky but generally speaking we are all better
>> off without the government in our businesses.
>>
>> 82?  Ralph some nights it doesn't get down to 82 here.  It's been in the
>> mid to high 90's every day for close to a month now!  Heat index most 
>> days
>> at or above 100.
>>
>> Charlie
> If we had that kind of heat for long I don't think I'd ever get much
> done outside the house.
> On the govt. marketing boards, I guess it varies but we had it pretty
> good back in the sixties
> and seventies with the dairy quota system. Government paid a subsidy on
> all we produced
> up to a point. Each had a quota and when you retired that quota could be
> sold to another
> producer for pretty good money. Those cream cheques bought a lot of
> groceries for the family
> back then. I wouldn't want the job now but back then we didn't know any
> better.
>
> Ralph in Sask.
>>
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