[AT] Slightly Off Topic

Dave rotigel at me.com
Wed Jul 20 05:41:12 PDT 2016 

I hate to tell all you young guys this, but it gets a LOT WORSE!
	Dave

On Jul 20, 2016, at 6:09 AM, charlie hill wrote:

> Phil,  I turned 66 on Sunday so I literally feel your pain!
> 
> Charlie
> 
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: Phil Auten
> Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2016 2:36 PM
> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
> Subject: Re: [AT] FW: Slightly Off Topic
> 
> Hi, Charlie,
> 
> I recently bought an Echo and except for it being pretty heavy I like
> it. I have a couple
> 
> of oaks next to my driveway that need pruning from time to time and it
> works great
> 
> for that. As long as I don't try to use it for more than an hour or so
> it's fine. It came
> 
> with a sling that makes it fairly easy to use and it take most of the
> weight. I'll be 69
> 
> in about two weeks and not as strong as I used to be. :o(
> 
> 
> Phil in TX
> 
> 
> On 7/19/2016 6:21 AM, charlie hill wrote:
>> Does anyone have experience with pole saws or pole pruners?
>> I mean the ones with a  chainsaw end that are powered by a
>> power unit that will also power string trimmers, etc.?
>> I need one to clear some stuff around my house and farm but
>> have no experience with them and don’t want to buy some sort of
>> toy that breaks before I get started.  At the same time I don't want
>> to pay any more for it than necessary.
>> 
>> Charlie
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Cecil Bearden
>> Sent: Monday, July 18, 2016 8:39 AM
>> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
>> Subject: Re: [AT] FW: Slightly Off Topic
>> 
>> I  have a Stihl Arborist saw the link is here:
>> http://www.stihlusa.com/products/chain-saws/in-tree-saws/ms150tce/
>> It is lightweight, and I have a 16in bar for cutting out trees in the
>> fence rows.   Since I have back problems and now balance problems, it
>> allows me to hold the saw and hold on to the fence while cutting.   The
>> top handle makes this saw extremely easy to work with.  I also have a
>> Red Max saw built the same way.  It is another great dependable brand.
>> Echo also makes a good lightweight saw.  At 5lbs, I would think these
>> would fit the bill for a lightweight saw.   I wold have to agree about
>> tripping on the cord.  With a dropped foot, that is a problem...
>> 
>> Cecil in OKla
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 7/17/2016 11:24 PM, Dean VP wrote:
>>> Out here in tree country I have come to the conclusion that there is only
>>> one brand of chain saw that I can trust. And that brand is Stihl. In this
>>> application I would recommend paying a bit more to get something that 
>>> will
>>> do the job abd last. I'm still using a Stihl Chainsaw I purchased in 
>>> 1976.
>>> It used to be used a bunch but I had everything mostly under control
>>> except
>>> this year some disease has hit several trees.  That sucker fired up again
>>> and went to work.  I'd hate to count the number of chains and bars  I 
>>> have
>>> worn out.  Stihl is what the local professionals use and there are one
>>> heck
>>> of a lot of tree cutting done in this area.  Logging is a huge income
>>> producer here.  Even the local John Deere dealers sell Stihl Chain saws .
>>> This is one area I don't recommend buying cheap.
>>> 
>>> Dean VP
>>> Snohomish, WA 98290
>>> 
>>> It's better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6.
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
>>> [mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of Dave
>>> Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2016 8:43 PM
>>> To: Antique tractor email discussion group <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [AT] FW: Slightly Off Topic
>>> 
>>> I bought this one about 2 years ago, and have been very pleased with it.
>>> http://www.homedepot.com/p/Greenworks-G-MAX-16-in-40-Volt-DigiPro-Brushless-
>>> Electric-Chainsaw-Battery-and-Charger-Not-Included-GW20322/205336459?cm_mmc=
>>> shopping-_-bingpa-_-28-_-205336459&ci_src=328768002&ci_sku=205336459&gclid=C
>>> PirtJGK_M0CFRIEgQodHoAF4A&gclsrc=ds GreenWorks also makes a more powerful
>>> model
>>> http://www.amleo.com/greenworks-pro-80v-li-ion-cordless-18in-chainsaw-tool-o
>>> nly/p/GCS450/?kc=bgshop16p&mkwid=sjwRuHjb&pcrid={creative} which might be
>>> better suited for some applications.
>>> Dave
>>> 
>>> On Jul 17, 2016, at 10:05 PM, Dick Day wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I used to use gas chain saws but found that I just could not handle
>>>> the weight. I find that the electric saws are much easier to
>>>> handle/safer.
>>>> Many years ago, a list member (cannot remember who) bought my Stilh gas
>>> saw.
>>>> I have been looking at the battery saws. There are quite a few on the
>>>> market now.  One day I may change to one.
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks
>>>> 
>>>> On Sun, Jul 17, 2016 at 8:23 PM, John Hall <jtchall at nc.rr.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> I use an electric pole saw and generator to trim around my fields--I
>>>>> always drive in a ground rod. If you aren't having much luck with a
>>>>> ground rod, consider buying a gasoline chainsaw or a battery powered
>>>>> model. Some of the battery powered stuff is getting to be pretty good
>>>>> quality. Regarding a gasoline saw, a cheap major brand would suit
>>>>> your needs.
>>>>> 
>>>>> John Hall
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 7/17/2016 8:52 PM, Dick Day wrote:
>>>>>> I forgot to ask the question!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Do I need to worry about the lack of a ground?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Sun, Jul 17, 2016 at 7:35 PM, DDSS, Inc. <ddss at telebeep.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Tractor related...  The JD 60 in the attachments is the first
>>>>>>> tractor I ever restored. It's a 1952.  Originally from Baltimore,
>>>>>>> we never had much
>>>>> need
>>>>>>> for a tractor :)  When we moved to Nebraska I eventually decided to
>>>>>>> see
>>>>> if
>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>> could restore one.  When I bought this JD in 1996, I had never even
>>>>> changed
>>>>>>> the oil in my car.  My wife just knew that we would eventually need
>>>>>>> to
>>>>> hire
>>>>>>> someone to use their payloader to haul the pieces away.  It took me
>>>>>>> 36 months and a lot of Coor's Lite to get it done.  I ordered the
>>>>>>> owner's manual, service manual and parts manual.  I learned to
>>>>>>> weld, do body
>>>>> work,
>>>>>>> use a cutting torch and to paint.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Since that one, I had other people ask me to restore tractors for
>>>>>>> them.
>>>>>>> Not sure how many remember Rodger Welsch from the list, but I did
>>>>>>> an
>>>>> Allis
>>>>>>> Chalmers G and a John Deere B for him.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I've reached a point that I can no longer get up on the 60, so I
>>>>>>> gave
>>>>> it to
>>>>>>> a son In Chicago, I'm hoping he'll be able to pick it up before
>>>>>>> winter
>>>>> sets
>>>>>>> in.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Sort of Tractor related...  The other attachment shows my 15 year
>>>>>>> old Generac generator that I converted to Propane.  As you see,
>>>>>>> it's on a carry-all on the back of my Boomer.  We have about 6
>>>>>>> acres in trees and
>>>>> a
>>>>>>> lot of it is Cottonwood.   They grow in clusters and during the
>>>>>>> summer,
>>>>> I
>>>>>>> will go in and thin them out.  That becomes firewood for the next
>>>>> winter.
>>>>>>> I use an 18" electric chain saw, hence the need for a generator.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Question... where we live is all sand, it's like living at the beach.
>>>>> Even
>>>>>>> in the woods, it's all sand.  To get a sufficient ground for the
>>>>> fencer, I
>>>>>>> had to put four 6-foot grounding rods in the ground.  I know I'm
>>>>> supposed
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> have some sort of ground when using the generator.   The chain saw 
>>>>>>> has
>>> a
>>>>>>> 2-prong plug and has an all plastic housing.  The generator does
>>>>>>> not
>>>>> have a
>>>>>>> GFI outlet.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thoughts?  Suggestions?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> D. Day
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
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