[AT] FW: Slightly Off Topic

charlie hill charliehill at embarqmail.com
Wed Jul 20 03:06:24 PDT 2016 

Thanks Alan,  The guy that sold me my zero turn mower uses
Echo now and also when he was running a lawn care business.
He said the same thing, Echo is good, Stihl is a  better but
he could get Echo from the guy that serviced his mowers.

I'd really just as soon not do the work myself but I figure buying
a $500.00 saw would be several times cheaper than I could hire
it all done.  That is unless I can find a crew of Amigos who need work.

Charlie

-----Original Message----- 
From: Alan Nadeau
Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2016 2:41 PM
To: Antique tractor email discussion group
Subject: Re: [AT] FW: Slightly Off Topic

Charlie,

I have used Echo equipment for many years, in commercial service, and found
them to be good.  Maybe not quite as good as Stihl, but still good.
Currently have the pole saw attachment, with an extension at times, for
trimming trees at the shooting club I belong to.

The pole attachment works great for overhead stuff, not so good for working
down near the ground as it leaves a punji stake sort of stub behind, nasty
to walk on and only a fool would try to run rubber tires over anything cut
with it.  For stuff at ground level I have a trimmer head set up with the
heavier duty guard and a blade that looks like a saw chain around the edge.
With that it is possible to cut stuff in the 1-1½" range pretty much flush
to the ground.  My technique for that small stuff is to wind the blade up to
full throttle and "chop" the stem off as the engine/clutch don't transmit
enough  power to keep the blade turning if you try to saw through with
steady pressure.

I have had the ones with the two piece shaft for a long time and have never
had any issues with them  other than the flexible driveshaft on both have
developed the ability to fall out when changing attachments.  When changing
attachments I find that if I stand the power unit straight up on the motor
and lower the attachment into the coupling I don't "lose" the shaft.  I
could get them fixed but they tell me it's a $100+/- fix and I can live with
my way instead of the expense.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "charlie hill" <charliehill at embarqmail.com>
To: "Antique tractor email discussion group" <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2016 1:26 PM
Subject: Re: [AT] FW: Slightly Off Topic


> Thanks Cecil.  Among other chores I have to do some clearing on steep
> banks.
> It's stuff
> that were I younger I could do with a chain saw or even a bush axe but my
> knees just
> won't let me climb up and down the slope any more.  With a pole saw I
> think
> I can stand in
> one spot and get a bunch of stuff done before moving on up or down.  In
> fact
> the reason I
> need one anyway is that as my knees have gone down hill I have not been
> keeping up
> with my trimming and now it is out of control.  Then there are the
> overhanging limbs
> on the farm to deal with.
>
> Charlie
>
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: Cecil Bearden
> Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2016 8:00 AM
> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
> Subject: Re: [AT] FW: Slightly Off Topic
>
> I have an Echo that came from Home Depot.  It is a fixed length.  I used
> a Stihl that was extendable.   They are really a great saw.  In fact,
> they will save your back as you don't have to bend over.  I would stay
> away from the 2 piece ones as the connection breaks.
>
> Cecil in OKla
>
>
>
> On 7/19/2016 6:21 AM, charlie hill wrote:
>> Does anyone have experience with pole saws or pole pruners?
>> I mean the ones with a  chainsaw end that are powered by a
>> power unit that will also power string trimmers, etc.?
>> I need one to clear some stuff around my house and farm but
>> have no experience with them and don’t want to buy some sort of
>> toy that breaks before I get started.  At the same time I don't want
>> to pay any more for it than necessary.
>>
>> Charlie
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Cecil Bearden
>> Sent: Monday, July 18, 2016 8:39 AM
>> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
>> Subject: Re: [AT] FW: Slightly Off Topic
>>
>> I  have a Stihl Arborist saw the link is here:
>> http://www.stihlusa.com/products/chain-saws/in-tree-saws/ms150tce/
>> It is lightweight, and I have a 16in bar for cutting out trees in the
>> fence rows.   Since I have back problems and now balance problems, it
>> allows me to hold the saw and hold on to the fence while cutting.   The
>> top handle makes this saw extremely easy to work with.  I also have a
>> Red Max saw built the same way.  It is another great dependable brand.
>> Echo also makes a good lightweight saw.  At 5lbs, I would think these
>> would fit the bill for a lightweight saw.   I wold have to agree about
>> tripping on the cord.  With a dropped foot, that is a problem...
>>
>> Cecil in OKla
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 7/17/2016 11:24 PM, Dean VP wrote:
>>> Out here in tree country I have come to the conclusion that there is
>>> only
>>> one brand of chain saw that I can trust. And that brand is Stihl. In
>>> this
>>> application I would recommend paying a bit more to get something that
>>> will
>>> do the job abd last. I'm still using a Stihl Chainsaw I purchased in
>>> 1976.
>>> It used to be used a bunch but I had everything mostly under control
>>> except
>>> this year some disease has hit several trees.  That sucker fired up
>>> again
>>> and went to work.  I'd hate to count the number of chains and bars  I
>>> have
>>> worn out.  Stihl is what the local professionals use and there are one
>>> heck
>>> of a lot of tree cutting done in this area.  Logging is a huge income
>>> producer here.  Even the local John Deere dealers sell Stihl Chain saws
>>> .
>>> This is one area I don't recommend buying cheap.
>>>
>>> Dean VP
>>> Snohomish, WA 98290
>>>
>>> It's better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
>>> [mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of Dave
>>> Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2016 8:43 PM
>>> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
>>> <at at lists.antique-tractor.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [AT] FW: Slightly Off Topic
>>>
>>> I bought this one about 2 years ago, and have been very pleased with it.
>>> http://www.homedepot.com/p/Greenworks-G-MAX-16-in-40-Volt-DigiPro-Brushless-
>>> Electric-Chainsaw-Battery-and-Charger-Not-Included-GW20322/205336459?cm_mmc=
>>> shopping-_-bingpa-_-28-_-205336459&ci_src=328768002&ci_sku=205336459&gclid=C
>>> PirtJGK_M0CFRIEgQodHoAF4A&gclsrc=ds GreenWorks also makes a more
>>> powerful
>>> model
>>> http://www.amleo.com/greenworks-pro-80v-li-ion-cordless-18in-chainsaw-tool-o
>>> nly/p/GCS450/?kc=bgshop16p&mkwid=sjwRuHjb&pcrid={creative} which might
>>> be
>>> better suited for some applications.
>>> Dave
>>>
>>> On Jul 17, 2016, at 10:05 PM, Dick Day wrote:
>>>
>>>> I used to use gas chain saws but found that I just could not handle
>>>> the weight. I find that the electric saws are much easier to
>>>> handle/safer.
>>>> Many years ago, a list member (cannot remember who) bought my Stilh gas
>>> saw.
>>>> I have been looking at the battery saws. There are quite a few on the
>>>> market now.  One day I may change to one.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Jul 17, 2016 at 8:23 PM, John Hall <jtchall at nc.rr.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I use an electric pole saw and generator to trim around my fields--I
>>>>> always drive in a ground rod. If you aren't having much luck with a
>>>>> ground rod, consider buying a gasoline chainsaw or a battery powered
>>>>> model. Some of the battery powered stuff is getting to be pretty good
>>>>> quality. Regarding a gasoline saw, a cheap major brand would suit
>>>>> your needs.
>>>>>
>>>>> John Hall
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 7/17/2016 8:52 PM, Dick Day wrote:
>>>>>> I forgot to ask the question!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Do I need to worry about the lack of a ground?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, Jul 17, 2016 at 7:35 PM, DDSS, Inc. <ddss at telebeep.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Tractor related...  The JD 60 in the attachments is the first
>>>>>>> tractor I ever restored. It's a 1952.  Originally from Baltimore,
>>>>>>> we never had much
>>>>> need
>>>>>>> for a tractor :)  When we moved to Nebraska I eventually decided to
>>>>>>> see
>>>>> if
>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>> could restore one.  When I bought this JD in 1996, I had never even
>>>>> changed
>>>>>>> the oil in my car.  My wife just knew that we would eventually need
>>>>>>> to
>>>>> hire
>>>>>>> someone to use their payloader to haul the pieces away.  It took me
>>>>>>> 36 months and a lot of Coor's Lite to get it done.  I ordered the
>>>>>>> owner's manual, service manual and parts manual.  I learned to
>>>>>>> weld, do body
>>>>> work,
>>>>>>> use a cutting torch and to paint.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Since that one, I had other people ask me to restore tractors for
>>>>>>> them.
>>>>>>> Not sure how many remember Rodger Welsch from the list, but I did
>>>>>>> an
>>>>> Allis
>>>>>>> Chalmers G and a John Deere B for him.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I've reached a point that I can no longer get up on the 60, so I
>>>>>>> gave
>>>>> it to
>>>>>>> a son In Chicago, I'm hoping he'll be able to pick it up before
>>>>>>> winter
>>>>> sets
>>>>>>> in.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sort of Tractor related...  The other attachment shows my 15 year
>>>>>>> old Generac generator that I converted to Propane.  As you see,
>>>>>>> it's on a carry-all on the back of my Boomer.  We have about 6
>>>>>>> acres in trees and
>>>>> a
>>>>>>> lot of it is Cottonwood.   They grow in clusters and during the
>>>>>>> summer,
>>>>> I
>>>>>>> will go in and thin them out.  That becomes firewood for the next
>>>>> winter.
>>>>>>> I use an 18" electric chain saw, hence the need for a generator.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Question... where we live is all sand, it's like living at the
>>>>>>> beach.
>>>>> Even
>>>>>>> in the woods, it's all sand.  To get a sufficient ground for the
>>>>> fencer, I
>>>>>>> had to put four 6-foot grounding rods in the ground.  I know I'm
>>>>> supposed
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> have some sort of ground when using the generator.   The chain saw
>>>>>>> has
>>> a
>>>>>>> 2-prong plug and has an all plastic housing.  The generator does
>>>>>>> not
>>>>> have a
>>>>>>> GFI outlet.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thoughts?  Suggestions?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> D. Day
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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