[AT] FW: Slightly Off Topic

[Ken Knierim]

I have an old Winco PTO generator that I put on a trailer behind my DH.
Using a ball hitch on the tractor and mounting the generator to the trailer
allows me to have a portable welder platform running off the tractor PTO.
In keeping with the older traditions, I drag a chain on the trailer to give
it (the trailer and generator) a ground. I've heard you can toss a bucket
of water on the chain and improve the ground (AZ can be dry...). With
rubber tires it can build static and the chain will take care of that. Most
of the stuff I have does not have a GFI (grinders, chop saw, welder) but it
seems to treat me well.
    We went through a discussion here on this list about the time some
fella named Walt raised a ruckus that it wasn't necessary. The double
insulated equipment (the tools without a ground or that use 2-wire cords)
shouldn't be too much of a problem with the mains but grounding the
generator from static can get missed and it can bite. I like your little
wooden generator transport but I'd seriously think about erring on the side
of caution. A regular old log chain works just fine for me. If it brushes
up against some live plants you'll get a decent ground.

Just my thought.

Ken in AZ

On Sun, Jul 17, 2016 at 6:23 PM, John Hall <jtchall at nc.rr.com> wrote:

> I use an electric pole saw and generator to trim around my fields--I
> always drive in a ground rod. If you aren't having much luck with a
> ground rod, consider buying a gasoline chainsaw or a battery powered
> model. Some of the battery powered stuff is getting to be pretty good
> quality. Regarding a gasoline saw, a cheap major brand would suit your
> needs.
>
> John Hall
>
>
> On 7/17/2016 8:52 PM, Dick Day wrote:
> > I forgot to ask the question!
> >
> > Do I need to worry about the lack of a ground?
> >
> > On Sun, Jul 17, 2016 at 7:35 PM, DDSS, Inc. <ddss at telebeep.com> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Tractor related...  The JD 60 in the attachments is the first tractor I
> >> ever
> >> restored. It's a 1952.  Originally from Baltimore, we never had much
> need
> >> for a tractor :)  When we moved to Nebraska I eventually decided to see
> if
> >> I
> >> could restore one.  When I bought this JD in 1996, I had never even
> changed
> >> the oil in my car.  My wife just knew that we would eventually need to
> hire
> >> someone to use their payloader to haul the pieces away.  It took me 36
> >> months and a lot of Coor's Lite to get it done.  I ordered the owner's
> >> manual, service manual and parts manual.  I learned to weld, do body
> work,
> >> use a cutting torch and to paint.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Since that one, I had other people ask me to restore tractors for them.
> >> Not sure how many remember Rodger Welsch from the list, but I did an
> Allis
> >> Chalmers G and a John Deere B for him.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> I've reached a point that I can no longer get up on the 60, so I gave
> it to
> >> a son In Chicago, I'm hoping he'll be able to pick it up before winter
> sets
> >> in.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Sort of Tractor related...  The other attachment shows my 15 year old
> >> Generac generator that I converted to Propane.  As you see, it's on a
> >> carry-all on the back of my Boomer.  We have about 6 acres in trees and
> a
> >> lot of it is Cottonwood.   They grow in clusters and during the summer,
> I
> >> will go in and thin them out.  That becomes firewood for the next
> winter.
> >> I use an 18" electric chain saw, hence the need for a generator.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Question... where we live is all sand, it's like living at the beach.
> Even
> >> in the woods, it's all sand.  To get a sufficient ground for the
> fencer, I
> >> had to put four 6-foot grounding rods in the ground.  I know I'm
> supposed
> >> to
> >> have some sort of ground when using the generator.   The chain saw has a
> >> 2-prong plug and has an all plastic housing.  The generator does not
> have a
> >> GFI outlet.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Thoughts?  Suggestions?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> D. Day
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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