[AT] Off Topic -- burning wood

Mike M meulenms at gmx.com
Wed Dec 21 15:32:14 PST 2016


I think what Charlie is saying is the jugs stay buoyant and keep a hole 
in the ice that the cattle can shove their heads through. I would not 
use antifreeze for obvious reasons.

Mike M



On 12/21/2016 5:32 PM, Dave wrote:
> Charlie, I believe the salt in the water (or a 50/50 antifreeze mixture for that matter) would not raise the temperature of the mixture in the plastic jug, but simply lower the freezing point of the mixture IN the jugs. That would not effect the freezing of the water in the tank. See: https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=how%20much%20does%20salt%20lower%20the%20freezing%20point%20of%20water%3F <https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=how much does salt lower the freezing point of water?>
> 	Dave
>
>> On Dec 21, 2016, at 5:01 PM, charlie hill <charliehill at embarqmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Cecil,  I don't know what it is but the rail road company here has something
>> they
>> spray on right of ways that will kill anything I've ever seen.  I sure am
>> glad
>> we don't have those things here.
>>
>> While you are reading Cecil,  I saw a trick online today that might help
>> with your water
>> troughs.  I don't know, maybe it gets too cold there for it to work but here
>> it goes.
>> They said to take plastic 1 gallon milk jugs and fill them about half full
>> of water and
>> about half a cup of salt and make sure it dissolves well.  Put the lids on
>> the jugs and
>> float them in the trough. 1 for a small and more depending on the size.  The
>> salt water
>> in the jug supposedly won't freeze (depends on how cold I guess) and keeps
>> an area
>> the size of the jug open.  It didn't show the animals drinking so I just
>> assume they push the
>> jug down and drink.  Might be totally useless but I thought I'd pass it
>> along.
>>
>> Charlie
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Cecil Bearden
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 8:29 AM
>> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
>> Subject: Re: [AT] Off Topic -- burning wood
>>
>> I just cut down a bunch of it while clearing out a fence row. While I
>> was pushing brush, the chainsaw crew would cut down the small groves of
>> Bois DÁrc that would grow from one large tree. The roots will travel
>> over 100ft then surface to start another tree.   I have had the roots
>> search out connections in water lines over 20 ft away and separate the
>> pipe.    There were no leaks in the pipe before, it just seems like
>> these roots have a mind of their own.  I think they can detect running
>> water in pipes from the vibration...  Crazy I know, but we have a lot of
>> water lines near fence rows.  When Bois DÁrc gets started we have water
>> leaks.  Now, I need a good cheap way to get stumps to rot.  Trying to
>> grub them out with the trackhoe is time consuming and leaves a lot of
>> rough ground to grade.   I am going to spray the fence row with 2-4D at
>> least 2 times a year to stop the tree growth.   I can run about 12 more
>> cows if I can get this brush killed....
>>
>> Cecil in OKla
>>
>>
>> On 12/21/2016 7:10 AM, Vaughn Miller wrote:
>>> Bois D'Arc is know as Osage Orange here, and is great wood if you are
>>> burning for heat.  Common in fence rows and field edges it can be
>>> miserable
>>> to saw up.  The tops are very dense and thorny.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 7:27 AM, Cecil Bearden <crbearden at copper.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I remember when we bought our first farm about 57 years ago, the fence
>>>> posts were Bois DÁrc posts about 2-3 inches in diameter. You had to get
>>>> one leg of the fence staple in a crack and hold on to the back of the
>>>> post to drive it in..    Usually the staple would just bend over.  After
>>>> the first winter, Dad figured out that Baling wire held better.  If you
>>>> doubles the wire around the back of the post you could  tighten the
>>>> fence up as you tied it up.  Over the next 10 years we replaced all of
>>>> the fences with steel posts.   There is a pile of those old wooden posts
>>>> still on that place.  They are just as hard now as they were back then!!
>>>>
>>>> Cecil in oKla
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 12/21/2016 6:10 AM, Dean Vinson wrote:
>>>>> Don't know whether the pellets would still pop and spark, interesting
>>>>> question.   I bet that stuff would beat the heck out of the pellet mill,
>>>>> though... hard as a rock!
>>>>>
>>>>> Dean Vinson
>>>>> Saint Paris, OH
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
>>>>> [mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of Steve W.
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 2:59 AM
>>>>> To: Antique tractor email discussion group <at at lists.antique-tractor.com
>>>>>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [AT] Off Topic -- burning wood
>>>>>
>>>>> Mike M wrote:
>>>>>> I agree Dean, perfectly safe in a air tight wood stove, only issue I
>>>>>> can think of is when you go to reload, it could throw some poppers.
>>>>> Wonder how it would do if you ran it through a pelletizer and fed it to
>>>>> a
>>>>> pellet stove ?
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Steve W.
>>>>>
>>>>>
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