[AT] Tractors and other stuff...

charlie hill charliehill at embarqmail.com
Sat Dec 10 07:24:21 PST 2016


I have a very rare Pepsi Cola bottle only produced in New Bern, NC for 1 
year
about 1911 if I remember right.  A decade ago I could have sold it for 
around $2000.00
I recently found one like it on Ebay.  It wasn't in near as good shape as 
mine but
it was for sale for $500.00.    So it's not just the antique tractor world 
that is in a funk.
Also, collector cars are down except for some really high end stuff. 
Hopefully we are
about to see things turn around.

Charlie

-----Original Message----- 
From: Scott Williams
Sent: Friday, December 09, 2016 9:11 PM
To: 'Antique tractor email discussion group'
Subject: Re: [AT] Tractors and other stuff...

We get so used to values rising for so many years, it surprises us if they
drop.  I saw that on an episode of "American Pickers", where someone had
some toy or something and was explaining how much it had been worth 10 years
ago, and was worth a lot less now.  When you spend 30 or more years watching
values go only one way, seeing the market soften can be a shock - so much
that some won't believe it.  I'm sure there are a lot of old tractors
sitting unsold for months and years because sellers aren't interested in
dropping the price until it sells.  Just waiting for someone to finally pay
"what it's worth."

Still, I'm sure there are places where localized interest makes values far
higher than the larger market.  Spotting those is always tricky, and can
even be a way to make money...

Scott in Penfield NY

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of John Hall
Sent: Friday, December 9, 2016 6:37 PM
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I'll take your word for it! Around here anything green goes for more
money--whether its newer or older. It's largely due to marketing. You may be
right about no market due to aging collectors. I have a feeling that a lot
of us are going to wind up with tractors worth a lot less than what they
were back in the 90's.

I just listed dad's thresher for sale and have had no interest.  If it
doesn't sell I may tow it to the scrapyard come springtime--horrible thing
to do to a running machine but when there are no buyers there is no
alternative. Can't find any antique clubs interested in it. The last few
years our antique club existed, practically no one would watch us thresh,
folks just were not interested.

John Hall


On 12/8/2016 11:08 PM, Dean VP wrote:
> John,
>
> I don' know about your area but the market for antique tractors is
> quite soft where I get exposed to it.  The 39 and 40 B's are probably
> the least desired JD letter Series tractors for reasons that may be
> phony but they exist.  The 39 and 40 hand start B wasn't a huge change
> from the late unstyled JD B's and some call then an unstyled B with
> styled tin.  Only a 3 speed transmission and high gear isn't high
> enough to take on a tractor ride. However, I own two 1940 B's but they are
a bit unique in that they
> both have Electric Lights and Electric Starting.   They are little more
> desired as collector tractors because JD only manufactured them with
> those options in the Model year 1940. 1939 and 1940 Hand Start B's
> could be retrofitted to have those features after purchase. However,
> JD did not record in their manufacturing records how many were built
> in that configuration. It is estimated only approximately 5%  of the
> 1939 and 1940 B have Eclectic Lights and/or Electric Starting.  Those
> configured like that have a little higher market value than the Hand Start
versions.
>
> In the case of Spencer's B,  a significant part of the marker value is
> heavily influenced by the relatively new tires. With tires needing
> replacement, its market value would be even lower.  New tires have
> become a very significant portion of a tractor's value.  Market value
> varies quite a bit around the US with the Eastern US typically being
> the highest.  When agricultural commodity prices were almost double
> what they are now, the Midwest farm wealth was heavily influencing
> antique tractor values. Now with the commodities at half the price
> there isn't as much disposable income being thrown at antique tractors and
associated equipment.  Even the Toy
> market is soft compared to a few years ago.   Even the so called rare.
> Limited production and/or limited configurations have taken a hit but
> not as much as the "Plain Jane" tractors.
>
> Then there is another major influence and that is those born and
> raised in the 1930's - 1950's era are starting to die off. Without as
> many follow on collectors to replace them. The New generation
> tractors, 1961 on have become a major portion of the current collectors
interest.
>
> Dean VP
> Snohomish, WA 98290
>
> It's better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6.
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of John Hall
> Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2016 8:16 PM
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>
>
> I didn't know you could buy anything GREEN and running for that cheap!
> Maybe markets are softening? I never see them on CL so I can't offer
> any trends from there. There have been a couple Farmall H's that look
> in similar condition for around $1,200-1,600 that have been for sale
> for a while now on CL. Maybe this is one of those times its not JUST
> about the money, how about getting him to make you an offer--if its
> way more than you really need you can always counter with a lower
> offer--you'd both feel good about the deal then!
>
> John Hall
>
>
> On 12/8/2016 9:09 PM, Spencer Yost wrote:
>> Thanks Dean, I was thinking $1500 myself. Maybe I'm a little high? I
> thought a few pictures would be nice too, so here they are.  The folks
> that go to Portland have seen it a few times:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Spencer Yost
>>
>>> On Dec 8, 2016, at 7:41 PM, Dean VP <deanvp at att.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> I would suggest $1000 to $1,500.  The 39 models are not the most
>>> desired collector letter Series tractors and fully restored might
>>> Bring up to $2500
>>>
>>> Dean VP
>>> Snohomish, WA 98290
>>>
>>> It's better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
>>> [mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of Spencer
>>> Yost
>>> Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2016 5:01 PM
>>> To: at at lists.antique-tractor.com
>>> Subject: [AT] Tractors and other stuff...
>>>
>>> I have an older neighbor, who is really nice guy and loves old
>>> tractors. He is on several of his life, and loves to help me bale
>>> hay. In fact the last few cuttings I have not even been able to
>>> operate my own equipment. I just pick up a bales - he operates them
>>> for me :-)
>>>
>>> He wants to buy my John Deere B. Since he is older and in poor
>>> health I want to sell this to him.  I know he would really
>>> appreciate it, love it, and take care of it.
>>>
>>> It's a 1939  in  original, unmolested condition with flat spoke
>>> wheels, a leaking radiator and good tires. Other than that there's
>>> nothing special (or
>>> bad) about it.
>>>
>>> While I don't want to take a bath on it, I want to give him a very,
>>> very good price. What would you folks recommend?
>>>
>>> PS:   There is a list member with experience with the Dodge Ram
> eco-diesel.
>>> If that person could reply to me, off list if necessary, I have a few
>>> questions.   Thanks!
>>>
>>> Spencer Yost
>>>
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