[AT] Modern Gasoline

Mogrits mogrits at gmail.com
Thu Aug 25 08:18:40 PDT 2016


Stephen,

In a word: simplicity.The old Briggs carbs had no floats to get saturated,
no needle and seat to stick or wear out, no tiny passages and no float bowl
to collect crud to ruin the above mentioned parts. I guess they used the
entire tank as a "bowl". I realize they are limited in that the carb must
sit on top of the tank, but man, were they simple. If the motor wouldn't
start or run correctly, you just unscrewed the gas cap and looked in the
tank. If you saw water or trash in it, two bolts had it off and emptied.

Warren

On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 8:17 AM, Stephen Offiler <soffiler at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Warren:
>
> Interesting.  From a purely technical standpoint, how is the old B&S
> venturi carb superior?
>
>
> SO
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 7:50 AM, Mogrits <mogrits at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Stephen, I have no idea, as I haven't left gas in one that long, but if
> > someone would mate the old Briggs and Stratton venturi carb (no bowl and
> > float) to the Honda OHV design with electronic ignition, they would have
> > the ideal small engine.
> >
> > Warren
> >
> > On Mon, Aug 22, 2016 at 12:45 PM, Stephen Offiler <soffiler at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Do those Chonda engines run on 18-month old gas like the real thing?
> > >
> > > SO
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, Aug 22, 2016 at 10:24 AM, Mogrits <mogrits at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Charlie, that should indeed work as a replacement for him. I put one
> of
> > > > those on a Murray 20" push mower body to create what I call
> > > "Frankenmower".
> > > > Starts just like a Honda, and cuts through most anything without
> > > complaint,
> > > > including "monkey grass" or lariope. Some people have adaptor issues
> > > mating
> > > > them up, but the review section of the Harbor Freight page gives
> > > solutions
> > > > to almost all of those.
> > > >
> > > > Around here we call them "Chondas", as they appear to be knock-offs
> of
> > > the
> > > > Honda OHV design.
> > > >
> > > > Warren
> > > >
> > > > On Sun, Aug 21, 2016 at 6:47 PM, charlie hill <
> > > charliehill at embarqmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Dick wouldn't this work as a replacement for the 5.5 vertical
> > > > > http://www.harborfreight.com/55-hp-173cc-ohv-vertical-
> > > > > shaft-gas-engine-carb-69731.html
> > > > >
> > > > > Charlie
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Dick Day
> > > > > Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2016 11:20 PM
> > > > > To: Antique tractor email discussion group
> > > > > Subject: Re: [AT] Modern Gasoline
> > > > >
> > > > > Several years ago, I converted our 15-year old Generac generator to
> > LP.
> > > > It
> > > > > always did start easy (electric start) but with LP I can connect it
> > to
> > > > our
> > > > > 500gallon LP tank if we ever got stranded by a blizzard.
> > > > >
> > > > > My other gas implements (push mower, 2 garden tractors, power
> washer,
> > > > > tiller) don't always start as easy even though I would let the gas
> > run
> > > > out
> > > > > in the fall.    My plan was to convert every gas engine we had.
> I've
> > > > also
> > > > > got a Troy Built sickle mower. That was next on my list to convert
> > > until
> > > > I
> > > > > discovered that there are no engines I can buy to replace the
> > vertical
> > > > > 5.5hp Briggs that's on there.  I don't think that converting it to
> LP
> > > > would
> > > > > necessarily hurt the engine but decided not to take a chance and
> > never
> > > > got
> > > > > around to the other engines. I retire next spring. Once that
> happens,
> > > > I'll
> > > > > get back on my LP conversion project.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Sat, Aug 20, 2016 at 3:34 PM, Stephen Offiler <
> soffiler at gmail.com
> > >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > I just pulled out my power washer and realized it has not been
> run
> > > > since
> > > > > > March 2015.  Half a tank of fuel still sloshing around.  On the
> > > > upside, I
> > > > > > am always careful to turn off the gas and run the carb dry.  I am
> > > also
> > > > > > careful to add Sta-Bil as soon as I purchase gas.  We have
> ethanol
> > in
> > > > our
> > > > > > gas around here like in most places in the USA.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It started on the first pull.  Literally.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Engine is a 9HP Honda GX270 (I think).  I suppose there might be
> > > > > qualities
> > > > > > of the engine (strong spark, strong fuel vaporization in the
> carb,
> > > > > > whatever...) that help it run on crappy old gas.  Or something.
> > I'm
> > > > > still
> > > > > > shaking my head in amazement.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > SO
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