[AT] off topic , really confused

[Cecil Bearden]

We can promote the old values, if done in the correct manner.
Cecil in OKla




On 8/13/2016 7:55 AM, Stephen Offiler wrote:
> If I'm reading this right, it's a rebuttal to Spencer, and personally I
> think his words on this subject are very wise indeed.
>
> Not speaking up is NOT a complete failure, not always.  I'll drag out some
> familiar evidence:
>
> "If you can't say anything nice, don't say anything at all" (source
> unknown, but I bet your mother said it)
>
> "Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and to remove
> all doubt."  (This has been attributed to Abraham Lincoln and Mark Twain
> among others).   There is a Biblical verse expressing the same sentiment,
> Proverbs 17:28 King James version:  "Even a fool, when he holdeth his
> peace, is counted wise: and he that shutteth his lips is esteemed a man of
> understanding."
>
>
> SO
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 12, 2016 at 9:56 PM, deanvp <deanvp at att.net> wrote:
>
>> I think it very important we make our selves heard to try to retain the
>> values we grew up with.  Not speaking up is a complete failure on our part.
>>
>>
>> Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy Tablet
>> -------- Original message --------From: David Bruce <davidbruce at yadtel.net>
>> Date: 8/12/16  6:38 PM  (GMT-08:00) To: Antique tractor email discussion
>> group <at at lists.antique-tractor.com> Subject: Re: [AT] off topic , really
>> confused
>> Long years ago I sat on my grandpa's front porch listening to the
>> problems of the younger generation (the ones who fought WWI and Korea).
>> To me a lot of this sounds much the same. Yes I have strong political
>> beliefs which don't fit with the current climate but it serves little
>> purpose to grouse about that here.
>>
>> David
>>
>> NW NC
>>
>>
>> On 8/12/2016 9:06 PM, Spencer Yost wrote:
>>> The only reason I originally I replied  is because I don't see anyone
>> under 40 at the tractor shows(or on this list) unless they are exactly like
>> us or were dragged by their parent/uncle/neighbor.
>>> I understand, and none of us ever have to agree with any of it.   But to
>> act indignant and righteous, as us old guys tend to act (me included
>> sometimes), well;  all we do is lose our credibility and positions of
>> leadership.
>>> The battle of hearts and mind begins with relevance and a generous
>> helping of goodwill towards all men -including the young men with pants
>> around their knees - on Facebook all the time.
>>> Its hard sometimes I know - trust me I understand.  I hire local
>> teenagers on the farm just to expose them to the lifestyle and hard work in
>> the sun.  I promise they will brag about hauling hay in July, just like we
>> do, one day.   Their performance sucks, but truth be told mine probably did
>> do.  The baton we pass is a funny, fickle thing.
>>> Spencer Yost
>>
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