[AT] Modern Gasoline

Thu Aug 25 09:49:03 PDT 2016

But there were actually several different designs of those carb/gas tank combinations that looked alike but operated differently. Some had a built-in settling bowl that the built-in gas pump had to keep full-to-overflowing for the engine to run.  The fuel pump was FOREVER going bad so I bought replacement diaphragms in lots of 10 so I didn't have to make a shopping trip whenever I needed one.

Larry

---- Mogrits <mogrits at gmail.com> wrote: 
> Stephen,
> 
> In a word: simplicity.The old Briggs carbs had no floats to get saturated,
> no needle and seat to stick or wear out, no tiny passages and no float bowl
> to collect crud to ruin the above mentioned parts. I guess they used the
> entire tank as a "bowl". I realize they are limited in that the carb must
> sit on top of the tank, but man, were they simple. If the motor wouldn't
> start or run correctly, you just unscrewed the gas cap and looked in the
> tank. If you saw water or trash in it, two bolts had it off and emptied.
> 
> Warren
> 
> On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 8:17 AM, Stephen Offiler <soffiler at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > Hi Warren:
> >
> > Interesting.  From a purely technical standpoint, how is the old B&S
> > venturi carb superior?
> >
> >
> > SO
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 7:50 AM, Mogrits <mogrits at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Stephen, I have no idea, as I haven't left gas in one that long, but if
> > > someone would mate the old Briggs and Stratton venturi carb (no bowl and
> > > float) to the Honda OHV design with electronic ignition, they would have
> > > the ideal small engine.
> > >
> > > Warren
> > >
> > > On Mon, Aug 22, 2016 at 12:45 PM, Stephen Offiler <soffiler at gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Do those Chonda engines run on 18-month old gas like the real thing?
> > > >
> > > > SO
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Aug 22, 2016 at 10:24 AM, Mogrits <mogrits at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Charlie, that should indeed work as a replacement for him. I put one
> > of
> > > > > those on a Murray 20" push mower body to create what I call
> > > > "Frankenmower".
> > > > > Starts just like a Honda, and cuts through most anything without
> > > > complaint,
> > > > > including "monkey grass" or lariope. Some people have adaptor issues
> > > > mating
> > > > > them up, but the review section of the Harbor Freight page gives
> > > > solutions
> > > > > to almost all of those.
> > > > >
> > > > > Around here we call them "Chondas", as they appear to be knock-offs
> > of
> > > > the
> > > > > Honda OHV design.
> > > > >
> > > > > Warren
> > > > >
> > > > > On Sun, Aug 21, 2016 at 6:47 PM, charlie hill <
> > > > charliehill at embarqmail.com>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Dick wouldn't this work as a replacement for the 5.5 vertical
> > > > > > http://www.harborfreight.com/55-hp-173cc-ohv-vertical-
> > > > > > shaft-gas-engine-carb-69731.html
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Charlie
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: Dick Day
> > > > > > Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2016 11:20 PM
> > > > > > To: Antique tractor email discussion group
> > > > > > Subject: Re: [AT] Modern Gasoline
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Several years ago, I converted our 15-year old Generac generator to
> > > LP.
> > > > > It
> > > > > > always did start easy (electric start) but with LP I can connect it
> > > to
> > > > > our
> > > > > > 500gallon LP tank if we ever got stranded by a blizzard.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > My other gas implements (push mower, 2 garden tractors, power
> > washer,
> > > > > > tiller) don't always start as easy even though I would let the gas
> > > run
> > > > > out
> > > > > > in the fall.    My plan was to convert every gas engine we had.
> > I've
> > > > > also
> > > > > > got a Troy Built sickle mower. That was next on my list to convert
> > > > until
> > > > > I
> > > > > > discovered that there are no engines I can buy to replace the
> > > vertical
> > > > > > 5.5hp Briggs that's on there.  I don't think that converting it to
> > LP
> > > > > would
> > > > > > necessarily hurt the engine but decided not to take a chance and
> > > never
> > > > > got
> > > > > > around to the other engines. I retire next spring. Once that
> > happens,
> > > > > I'll
> > > > > > get back on my LP conversion project.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Sat, Aug 20, 2016 at 3:34 PM, Stephen Offiler <
> > soffiler at gmail.com
> > > >
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > I just pulled out my power washer and realized it has not been
> > run
> > > > > since
> > > > > > > March 2015.  Half a tank of fuel still sloshing around.  On the
> > > > > upside, I
> > > > > > > am always careful to turn off the gas and run the carb dry.  I am
> > > > also
> > > > > > > careful to add Sta-Bil as soon as I purchase gas.  We have
> > ethanol
> > > in
> > > > > our
> > > > > > > gas around here like in most places in the USA.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > It started on the first pull.  Literally.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Engine is a 9HP Honda GX270 (I think).  I suppose there might be
> > > > > > qualities
> > > > > > > of the engine (strong spark, strong fuel vaporization in the
> > carb,
> > > > > > > whatever...) that help it run on crappy old gas.  Or something.
> > > I'm
> > > > > > still
> > > > > > > shaking my head in amazement.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > SO
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