[AT] off topic , really confused

Sun Aug 14 09:15:02 PDT 2016

There's a lot to be learned from others and wisdom from age is only part of
the equation. Youth is not a disqualifier, there are young people doing and
creating great things every day. A lot of people have worked hard and still
do today.

Jason

On Sun, Aug 14, 2016, 11:09 AM charlie hill <charliehill at embarqmail.com>
wrote:

> Jason, you have no clue how hard my life has been but I'm not
> complaining because others have had it worse.  What I said was
> that I learned from the wisdom of older folks.  My father, who died
> when I was 16, used to quote Senator Sam Raybern (sp)
> "I never learned a thing when I was talking".
>
> The problem we have now is that we have allowed a bunch of folks who never
> listen
> and do nothing but talk run the show.  Don't read any political direction
> into that because
> both sides are guilty.  The whole rotten mess needs to be cleaned out just
> like the mouse
> nests in another, more list appropriate message.
>
> Charlie
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jason
> Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2016 5:09 PM
> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
> Subject: Re: [AT] off topic , really confused
>
> Sad to see grown men whining about how great everything used to be. Well it
> wasn't that great for everyone.
>
> Jason
>
> On Sat, Aug 13, 2016, 2:09 PM charlie hill <charliehill at embarqmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Spencer,  I know I'm late on this and it has died down but I just saw the
> > messages.
> >
> > When we were young we learned our values because we were taught to
> > sit and listen to the older folks until we knew enough to talk
> > intelligently.
> > Then our generation got into the same go along to get along attitude that
> > you seem to be promoting.  That's what got us into this mess.   We let
> > people
> > who are ignorant run the show because they shout the loudest and we want
> > to
> > be polite and get along.
> >
> > One old adage is still true.  "The squeaky wheel gets the grease".
> >
> > Charlie
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Spencer Yost
> > Sent: Friday, August 12, 2016 6:55 PM
> > To: Antique tractor email discussion group
> > Subject: Re: [AT] off topic , really confused
> >
> > At some point in time, we have to understand the continuation of this
> > community and of the antique tractor collecting community as a whole is
> > dependent on young people. Conversations like this just make us look like
> > a
> > bunch a grumpy old man and leave them cold.  It makes us look like our
> > fathers and their fathers before them. I could recite entire volumes,
> > speeches and books and essays that decry the diminution of American.
> > Everyone of them would have been written before 1920.  Your angst is
> > nothing
> > new.
> >
> > There's a new wave in America gentleman. It's a wave, and you better get
> a
> > surfboard learn how to ride.    If not for yourselves, then for this
> list.
> > If not for the list then for wisdom in realizing that nothing lasts.
> >
> > My grandmother, at 91, was researching new laptops. I asked her why she
> > even
> > want to bother with them. She said "to stay relevant my dear".
> >
> > Excellent advice....
> >
> > Spencer Yost
> >
> >
> >
> > Spencer Yost
> > > On Aug 12, 2016, at 4:44 PM, charlie hill <charliehill at embarqmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > It's the same America out here in fly over country.   It's just the
> > > wrong crowd running the show.  WE can't wait for others to fix
> > > it for us.  We have to take charge again.  Hopefully at the ballot
> > > box.
> > >
> > > Charlie
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Richard Fink Sr
> > > Sent: Friday, August 12, 2016 1:43 PM
> > > To: Antique tractor email discussion group
> > > Subject: Re: [AT] off topic , really confused
> > >
> > > Many of us Mike M
> > >
> > >
> > >> On 8/12/2016 12:22 PM, Mike M wrote:
> > >> Not the America I grew up in that's for sure, Bo!!
> > >>
> > >> Mike M
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>> On 8/12/2016 10:05 AM, Bo Hinch wrote:
> > >>> *Subject:* My New Reality
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> *My New Reality = really confused!!*
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> *It seems that lately my life has been getting more complicated, and
> I
> > >>> want
> > >>> to thank those of you who are brave enough to still associate with me
> > >>> regardless of what I have become.*
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> *The following is a recap of my current identity:*
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> *I was born a white male, which makes me a racist.*
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> *I am a fiscal and moral conservative, which makes me a fascist.*
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> *I am heterosexual, which makes me a homophobe.*
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> *I am non-union, which makes me a traitor to the working class and an
> > >>> ally
> > >>> of big business.*
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> *I am a Christian, which makes me an infidel.*
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> *I am older than 65 and retired, which makes me a useless old man.*
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> *I think and I reason; therefore I doubt much that the main stream
> > media
> > >>> tells me, which makes me a reactionary.*
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> *I am proud of my heritage and our inclusive American culture, which
> > >>> makes
> > >>> me a xenophobe.*
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> *I value my safety and that of my family; therefore I appreciate the
> > >>> police
> > >>> and the legal system, which makes me a right-wing extremist.*
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> *I believe in hard work, fair play, and fair compensation according
> to
> > >>> each
> > >>> individual's merits, which makes me anti-socialist.*
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> *I acquired a good education without student loans and no debt at
> > >>> graduation, which makes me some kind of odd underachiever.*
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> *I believe in the defense and protection of the homeland by all
> > >>> citizens,
> > >>> which makes me a militarist.*
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> *Please help me come to terms with this, because I’m not sure who I
> am
> > >>> anymore!*
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> *Newest problem ? I'm not sure which bathroom I should use.*
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> Please , somebody HELP me
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