[AT] off topic , really confused

Jason dejoodster at gmail.com
Sat Aug 13 15:47:37 PDT 2016


Your own words mean more than your copy and paste first post. There are a
lot of people who came from nothing, worked hard, and created something, my
parents would be among them. A lot of people with hard too it's just that
the jobs are different today. And there are a lot of people looking for a
hand out from the government but not everyone can afford lobbyists to do
their begging for them.

On Sat, Aug 13, 2016, 5:29 PM Bo Hinch <bohinch at gmail.com> wrote:

> Quite a few messages back , I promised Spencer I wasn't going to say any
> more about this , but , I have to respond to Jason . I came from a very
> poor family of seven . I was taught how to work and have responsibilities
> beginning at 6 years old . I was shot with a 20 gauge shotgun 3 months
> before my 15th birthday . Never returned to school because I was so far
> behind . So , once I was able to walk again ( on an artificial leg ) at 17
> , I went to work as a mechanic . I have worked all over the world , worked
> 20 hours a day to purchase the toys I always wanted which were Model D J.D.
> tractors and a Piper J3 airplane . I got my private pilot certificate in
> 1964 , Raised cattle , planted gardens , worked two jobs when I had too ,
> cut , bailed and hauled my own hay and never ever received any money or
> assistance from the government . I opened my own business in 1985 and sold
> it in 2008 , NEVER any help from anywhere , just a lot of long hard working
> hours which I was taught how to do by my parents . My dad used to say ,
> LIFE is WHAT YOU MAKE it . At 77 broken down years old , I HAVE worked for
> what I have , which isn't a lot , but its mine and it pisses me off to see
> all these DEAD HEADS sitting back complaining because our government
> doesn't do enough for them .
> I have to stop here before I literally explode and will probably get
> removed from the one list I truly enjoy .
>
> On Sat, Aug 13, 2016 at 4:09 PM, Jason <dejoodster at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Sad to see grown men whining about how great everything used to be. Well
> it
> > wasn't that great for everyone.
> >
> > Jason
> >
> > On Sat, Aug 13, 2016, 2:09 PM charlie hill <charliehill at embarqmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Spencer,  I know I'm late on this and it has died down but I just saw
> the
> > > messages.
> > >
> > > When we were young we learned our values because we were taught to
> > > sit and listen to the older folks until we knew enough to talk
> > > intelligently.
> > > Then our generation got into the same go along to get along attitude
> that
> > > you seem to be promoting.  That's what got us into this mess.   We let
> > > people
> > > who are ignorant run the show because they shout the loudest and we
> want
> > to
> > > be polite and get along.
> > >
> > > One old adage is still true.  "The squeaky wheel gets the grease".
> > >
> > > Charlie
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Spencer Yost
> > > Sent: Friday, August 12, 2016 6:55 PM
> > > To: Antique tractor email discussion group
> > > Subject: Re: [AT] off topic , really confused
> > >
> > > At some point in time, we have to understand the continuation of this
> > > community and of the antique tractor collecting community as a whole is
> > > dependent on young people. Conversations like this just make us look
> > like a
> > > bunch a grumpy old man and leave them cold.  It makes us look like our
> > > fathers and their fathers before them. I could recite entire volumes,
> > > speeches and books and essays that decry the diminution of American.
> > > Everyone of them would have been written before 1920.  Your angst is
> > > nothing
> > > new.
> > >
> > > There's a new wave in America gentleman. It's a wave, and you better
> get
> > a
> > > surfboard learn how to ride.    If not for yourselves, then for this
> > list.
> > > If not for the list then for wisdom in realizing that nothing lasts.
> > >
> > > My grandmother, at 91, was researching new laptops. I asked her why she
> > > even
> > > want to bother with them. She said "to stay relevant my dear".
> > >
> > > Excellent advice....
> > >
> > > Spencer Yost
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Spencer Yost
> > > > On Aug 12, 2016, at 4:44 PM, charlie hill <
> charliehill at embarqmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > It's the same America out here in fly over country.   It's just the
> > > > wrong crowd running the show.  WE can't wait for others to fix
> > > > it for us.  We have to take charge again.  Hopefully at the ballot
> > > > box.
> > > >
> > > > Charlie
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Richard Fink Sr
> > > > Sent: Friday, August 12, 2016 1:43 PM
> > > > To: Antique tractor email discussion group
> > > > Subject: Re: [AT] off topic , really confused
> > > >
> > > > Many of us Mike M
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >> On 8/12/2016 12:22 PM, Mike M wrote:
> > > >> Not the America I grew up in that's for sure, Bo!!
> > > >>
> > > >> Mike M
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>> On 8/12/2016 10:05 AM, Bo Hinch wrote:
> > > >>> *Subject:* My New Reality
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> *My New Reality = really confused!!*
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> *It seems that lately my life has been getting more complicated,
> and
> > I
> > > >>> want
> > > >>> to thank those of you who are brave enough to still associate with
> me
> > > >>> regardless of what I have become.*
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> *The following is a recap of my current identity:*
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> *I was born a white male, which makes me a racist.*
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> *I am a fiscal and moral conservative, which makes me a fascist.*
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> *I am heterosexual, which makes me a homophobe.*
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> *I am non-union, which makes me a traitor to the working class and
> an
> > > >>> ally
> > > >>> of big business.*
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> *I am a Christian, which makes me an infidel.*
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> *I am older than 65 and retired, which makes me a useless old man.*
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> *I think and I reason; therefore I doubt much that the main stream
> > > media
> > > >>> tells me, which makes me a reactionary.*
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> *I am proud of my heritage and our inclusive American culture,
> which
> > > >>> makes
> > > >>> me a xenophobe.*
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> *I value my safety and that of my family; therefore I appreciate
> the
> > > >>> police
> > > >>> and the legal system, which makes me a right-wing extremist.*
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> *I believe in hard work, fair play, and fair compensation according
> > to
> > > >>> each
> > > >>> individual's merits, which makes me anti-socialist.*
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> *I acquired a good education without student loans and no debt at
> > > >>> graduation, which makes me some kind of odd underachiever.*
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> *I believe in the defense and protection of the homeland by all
> > > >>> citizens,
> > > >>> which makes me a militarist.*
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> *Please help me come to terms with this, because I’m not sure who I
> > am
> > > >>> anymore!*
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> *Newest problem ? I'm not sure which bathroom I should use.*
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Please , somebody HELP me
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