[AT] Battery Charger recommendations

Tue Apr 26 10:33:03 PDT 2016

I needed to refresh my memory.  What I already said, regarding the halogen,
is solid info; but what I had failed to recall was that there were some
loopholes built into the legislation.  The two best examples are three-way
bulbs and "rough-service" bulbs - they are still legal.  However, a
straight-up old school 100 watt incandescent is simply not legal, and that
legislation has phased in restrictions all the way down to 40 watts now.

SO

On Tue, Apr 26, 2016 at 11:15 AM, charlie hill <charliehill at embarqmail.com>
wrote:

> Steve,  I'll look at one, in fact I might buy one just to break it and see
> but
> I'm 99% sure what the guy is selling is a Chinese made incandescent bulb.
>
> Charlie
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stephen Offiler
> Sent: Monday, April 25, 2016 4:28 PM
> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
> Subject: Re: [AT] Battery Charger recommendations
>
> Charlie, just one quick point here.  The legislation that "outlawed" 100
> watt incandescent bulbs was written to specify a minimum efficiency, stated
> as lumens (light output) per watt of electricity input.  They set the
> number at a point that a normal old incandecent bulb could not achieve.
> But here's the trick:  a *halogen* bulb with a filament operated at a
> certain elevated temperature is able to hit the efficiency number.  If you
> can look inside those Chinese bulbs you mentioned, I bet you will see one
> of those long slender halogen bulbs (a smaller version of those 300- and
> 500-watt halogen floodlight bulbs).  But beware; because they have to raise
> the filament temperature to hit the efficiency number, they have short
> life.
>
> SO
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 25, 2016 at 2:45 PM, charlie hill <charliehill at embarqmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > I fully agree about the LED bulbs as well as the compact fluorescent.
> > I don't particularly like either but the LED's are light years (pun
> > intended)
> > ahead of the fluorescent.   I thought the whole idea of pushing these
> > alternatives to incandescent bulbs was to "save the planet" by saving
> some
> > energy.  The incandescent bulbs were outlawed.  100 watt went first and
> > then
> > 75 and then 60 or so I was told.  GE's plants in Goldsboro, NC (near me)
> > and
> > Winchester, VA were shut down and hundreds of American workers lost their
> > jobs all in the name of switching to more efficient and "planet friendly"
> > alternatives.
> > Jump forward a few months.  Last week  I was in the local corner store.
> > My
> > neighbor
> > was in there inquiring about getting some incandescent bulbs.  I chuckled
> > and said good
> > luck with that.  The store owner spoke up and said, "no, I think I have
> > some.  He went on
> > to say he'd been able to get them.  We walked back to the shelf where
> they
> > are kept and
> > LO and BEHOLD there were several boxes of 100 watt incandescent bulbs
> > MARKED
> > MADE IN CHINA.
> >
> > Yet another sham pulled on American working people.   I guess they don't
> > contribute to so called
> > "global warming" if they are made in China and brought 13,000 miles by
> way
> > of ship rather than
> > making them 60 miles up the road with American workers.
> >
> > Charlie
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Stephen Offiler
> > Sent: Monday, April 25, 2016 2:23 PM
> > To: Antique tractor email discussion group
> > Subject: Re: [AT] Battery Charger recommendations
> >
> > I'm having great success with LED light bulbs.  I believe mine are Osram,
> > but, I am pretty familiar with the LED industry and Cree has an excellent
> > reputation.  What kind of fixture are you using them in?  LED's don't
> > produce all that much heat (say, in relation to an incandescent bulb)
> but,
> > on the other hand they do not tolerate heat.  Typically they have
> > signficant heat-sinks built in to control heat, but restrictive light
> > fixtures could play havoc.
> >
> > SO
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Apr 25, 2016 at 11:57 AM, Ron Cook <ron at lakeport-1.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Charlie,
> > >
> > > I have heard positive response similar to yours on those engines.
> > >
> > > Last August I bought 6 CREE LED light bulbs at Home Depot.  They are
> > > maybe supposed to last 20 years, but only if you do not use them.  They
> > > conveniently left off that disclaimer.  Last night while working on a 3
> > > horse John Deere E engine, the third one went out.  More junk!
> > >
> > > Ron Cook, Salix, IA
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 4/25/2016 10:16 AM, charlie hill wrote:
> > > > I don't know about their electrics although I think I have a cheap
> > drill
> > > > motor or two
> > > > and maybe a couple of side grinders from their that I bought to use
> on
> > a
> > > job
> > > > site,
> > > > however, the 6.5 HP, honda knockoff, horizontal shaft engine that I
> > > bought
> > > > from them
> > > > to put on my garden tiller is flawless after three seasons and at the
> > > sale
> > > > price I paid,
> > > > (about $80.00 out the door) it was less than half of the price of the
> > > > gas
> > > > tank I needed
> > > > to repair the 20 year old 5 hp B&S that came on the tiller.
> > > >
> > > > Charlie
> > > >
> > >
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