[AT] Charlie Hill,

[charlie hill]

Thanks Dennis,

Yes I've done similar removals but this tree it too much for that.  First 
off it's a pine
so it has a big tap root.  It's about 80' and 2 1/2' diameter at the base. 
It's about 20 feet
from the front of my house.

Going back to some basic physics,  3 tons applied 12 feet above the base 
(your example)
would put 72,000 ft pounds of torque on the base of the tree (assuming the 3 
ton come along
would put the full 3 tons on the cable) less some allowance for the angle of 
the cable.
That is more than enough to make it go the way I want it to go but the tree 
is big enough
to destroy a 3 ton come along and as soon as it starts to fall all of that 
mechanical advantage
from the come along goes away (when the cable comes slack).

It's too much risk to do it that way.

Charlie

-----Original Message----- 
From: Dennis Johnson
Sent: Sunday, October 04, 2015 11:56 PM
To: Antique tractor email discussion group
Subject: Re: [AT] Charlie Hill,

Charlie,

I have taken down some reasonably large oak trees, basically with a 3 ton 
come along. Get a ladder and hook on the tree up reasonably high - 12 foot 
or higher.  You need some other tree or fixed object to tie too. After you 
have a little tension on the tree, dig down and cut the roots around the 
base of the tree. Then pull, pull, pull. It is work, but can take down a 
tree.

Good luck

Dennis


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> On Oct 4, 2015, at 8:06 PM, charlie hill <charliehill at embarqmail.com> 
> wrote:
>
> I have a huge pine tree in front of my house.  It's very healthy but for
> some
> reason it has been progressively leaning toward the house for several 
> years
> now.  The way it is situated it can not be safely cut and thrown.  It will
> have
> to come down in blocks from the top down.  I figure it will cost a couple 
> of
> grand minimum to get it down.  It's starting to worry me. If it gives 
> loose
> and falls all at once it will cut the house in half.    I think there is
> just a
> slim chance that it can be felled in one piece but I'll need something 
> like
> a
> winch truck or a large excavator to makes sure if falls the right way.
> Time will tell.  If it fell right now, given where I am sitting in the
> house,
> you wouldn't likely hear from me any time soon if at all.  LOL.
> I don't think it will go all at once unless we get a very bad hurricane.
>
> Charlie
>
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: David Bruce
> Sent: Sunday, October 04, 2015 3:56 PM
> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
> Subject: Re: [AT] Charlie Hill,
>
> Maybe just a bit less on the other side of the river Spencer but much
> the same. One thing happening here is with the steady wind and the
> saturated ground from the last couple weeks events some trees are
> falling. Nothing on me or mine other than a few medium to small limbs.
> However my neighbor down on the creek says he has quite a few on the
> ground.
>
> David
> NW NC
>
>> On 10/4/2015 8:54 AM, ATIS wrote:
>> We only got 2.4" in this most recent event, but we have had rain a bunch
>> of consecutive  days, and that has totaled nearly 6" and contributed to
>> the flooding. I overheard the local weather guy say that yesterday broke 
>> a
>> record of 10 consecutive days  of rain in Greensboro nc - about 30 miles
>> east of here.  We had about 6/100 this morning so that makes 11 days.
>>
>> 48 degrees yesterday morning and high winds so it was cold rain as well.
>>
>> www.rdfarms.com/weather
>>
>> Spencer Yost
>
>
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