[AT] How can they farm like that

[Cecil R Bearden]

A friend of mine has been a tractor mechanic for 25 years.  He was very 
enthusiastic when I bought my 7030 Allis Chalmers.   He said the duals 
were ok, but not to weight the duals.  He had worked on several 7030's 
that had water and wheel weights on the duals and the rear ends were 
breaking down.  However the owners were pulling 24ft disks with them 
also....  I can't pull a lot with mine, as the main clutch or the drive 
plate i slipping.  I have not had a chance to do any adjustment, but I 
think it is the o-rings on the main clutch piston are worn...  I just 
make sure it engages quickly and use a lower gear when pulling.   I hope 
to get the tractor split this winter.  providing my knee will cooperate....

Cecil in oKla



On 11/22/2015 10:10 PM, Dean VP wrote:
> Here is an article and a graph that shows slippage vs  HP applied to the surface based on surface
> material.
>
> http://articles.extension.org/pages/28319/optimize-wheel-slip-to-save-fuel#.VlKQ1HmFN9A
>
>
>
> Dean VP
> Snohomish, WA
>
> If we can employ guards with guns to protect money, we can and should employ guards with guns to
> protect people. Bernard Goldberg.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com [mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of
> charlie hill
> Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2015 2:06 PM
> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
> Subject: Re: [AT] How can they farm like that
>
> Certainly an interesting subject Dean.
> I'm sure the pullers study it long and hard.
>
> Charlie
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dean VP
> Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2015 3:55 PM
> To: 'Antique tractor email discussion group'
> Subject: Re: [AT] How can they farm like that
>
> Charlie,
>
> It wasn't too long ago that I read an article about the required optimum
> slippage to get the most HP
> to the ground. That was really interesting as that was something that was
> not discussed on the farm
> that I recall.  I suspect pullers use that to the maximum.
>
>
> Dean VP
> Snohomish, WA
>
> If we can employ guards with guns to protect money, we can and should employ
> guards with guns to
> protect people. Bernard Goldberg.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com
> [mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of
> charlie hill
> Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2015 5:15 AM
> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
> Subject: Re: [AT] How can they farm like that
>
> I remember reading one Progressive Farmer article about tire slippage where
> it explained
> that a tire could not roll without slipping (I guess unless it had an
> infinitely small contact patch).
> It continued to discuss the optimum % of slippage for applying HP to the
> ground.  If I remember
> right it was between 12 and 15%.  It occurs to me that that percentage range
> turns up a lot in
> agriculture and construction.  Everything from wheel slippage to moisture
> content in grain
> and also in the wood in a building.
>
> Charlie
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rlgoss at twc.com
> Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 11:33 AM
> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
> Subject: Re: [AT] How can they farm like that
>
> We only had one jack and inadequate cribbing on the farm, so we never
> bothered making sure the treads headed the right direction.  Besides, the
> rear tires had closed ends on the rubber cleats and we were never able to
> detect any difference in traction regardless of the direction of rotation.
> I used to read the tire ads in Successful Farming and wish WE had those
> new-style treads that cleared themselves of mud, etc.
>
>
> Larry
> ---- Don <don.bowen at earthlink.net> wrote:
>> On 11/21/2015 7:39 AM, Indiana Robinson wrote:
>>> On dished wheel tractors like this I always sat the wheels out for
>>> cultivating row crops by switching sides but some guys just flipped them
>>> around one side at a time. I knew several that said that they didn't
>>> have a
>>> jack big enough to lift the whole back of the tractor at once.
>> We switched side to side on the Ferguson for spraying and cultivating.
>> My father also put fluid in the tires.  He would take one wheel off and
>> lean it against the tree then take the other wheel and put it in the
>> other side.  One year while trying to set the first wheel up to roll it
>> he slipped and the tire pinned him against the tree.  He was stuck until
>> my mother called someone to come help.  Luckily no serious injuries.
>>
>> -- 
>> Don Bowen       --AD0NB--
>>
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