[AT] Healthy Eating, was "Just checking"

Fri Nov 6 07:23:41 PST 2015

Dean,

There was some discussion some months ago about the Oliver plows being more popular due to pulling better. Thought it was discussed here, but could have been elsewhere.

I am not sure what would make 1 plow pull better than another, unless there was some shape difference in the plow shears. If anyone has any ideas why one would pull easier, I would like to know.

Thanks
Dennis

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> On Nov 5, 2015, at 11:17 PM, Dean VP <deanvp at att.net> wrote:
> 
> A JD 4020 is close to a 100HP tractor. I agree it should pull 4 x 16" easily in almost any soil.  We pulled a 4 x 14" 8 to 10" deep with a JD 70 Gas which had less than 50HP in NW IA sandy loam.  . I'll admit there were times when it was working at 100% capacity.  The top half of the muffler would turn red and would light things up at night.  Really preferred to plow at night, the extra bit of HP really helped.  Talked to a local JD Dealer in his 80's a few years ago and he really surprised me when I asked about some specifics of JD hitches and plows in the 50's. He said that they didn't really sell very many JD plows then. The local farmer in NW WA state preferred Oliver plows because they pulled easier.  Was that something unique to NW WA or have others experienced this? First time I had heard that.. 
> 
> 
> Dean VP
> Snohomish, WA
> 
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com [mailto:at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of Indiana Robinson
> Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2015 7:38 PM
> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
> Subject: Re: [AT] Healthy Eating, was "Just checking"
> 
> Our soils must be a lot looser than yours. I ran my 4020 in 5th gear
> pulling a 4-16 semi-mount 10" deep... It never had to work at it. In many
> areas I could stick it in 6th and throttle way back and it would still pull
> it. Of course I never really used it like that but it would pull it OK in
> 6th.
> 
> 
> 
> On Thu, Nov 5, 2015 at 10:06 PM, Darrell Ratliff <dbigdog at columbus.rr.com>
> wrote:
> 
>>  Mostly it’s a toy.  Here’s another:
>> 
>> From: jtchall at nc.rr.com
>> Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2015 9:58 PM
>> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
>> Subject: Re: [AT] Healthy Eating, was "Just checking"
>> 
>> I think we used to run in 3rd, maybe 4th. Does he still use that tractor
>> for
>> farming or is it a playtoy? Looks pretty nice.
>> 
>> John
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Darrell Ratliff
>> Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2015 9:27 PM
>> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
>> Subject: Re: [AT] Healthy Eating, was "Just checking"
>> 
>> 4020 pulling 5 – 18’s.  It was really all he could handle.  Not sure but
>> I’d
>> bet the tires are not loaded.  Typically a 4020 would be limited to 4
>> bottoms here too.  Not sure what gear he was running in but he was slow.
>> 
>> 
>> From: jtchall at nc.rr.com
>> Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2015 9:04 PM
>> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
>> Subject: Re: [AT] Healthy Eating, was "Just checking"
>> 
>> Is that a 4010 or 20? What's up with all the wheel weights, are his tires
>> dry mounted? We never ran but a couple wheel weights, but always had about
>> as much water in them as you could get. We can only pull 4 bottoms here,
>> tighter soil I guess. We ran 3pt plows so that probably helped boost
>> traction as well. The rack of weights on the front looks familiar, I have
>> to
>> put them on anytime I need to do deep chisel plowing.
>> 
>> John Hall
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Darrell Ratliff
>> Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2015 8:23 PM
>> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
>> Subject: Re: [AT] Healthy Eating, was "Just checking"
>> 
>> John,
>>    I was on a 56 standard cub with the under-slung exhaust.  We had 7
>> tractors with a total of 19 bottoms in the ground.  The ground was in prime
>> condition.
>> Here is another participant – sort of the opposite end of the spectrum from
>> my cub.
>> 
>> From: jtchall at nc.rr.com
>> Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2015 8:07 PM
>> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
>> Subject: Re: [AT] Healthy Eating, was "Just checking"
>> 
>> Darrell, I'm guessing you are driving a Cub/Cub-loboy with underslung
>> exhaust?
>> 
>> John Hall
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Darrell Ratliff
>> Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2015 7:39 PM
>> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
>> Subject: Re: [AT] Healthy Eating, was "Just checking"
>> 
>> It’s not exactly healthy eating or “just checking” but here’s a picture
>> from
>> a local plow day last Saturday
>> 
>> 
>> From: ATIS
>> Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2015 6:15 PM
>> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
>> Subject: Re: [AT] Healthy Eating, was "Just checking"
>> 
>> I'm for eating whatever brings antique tractors back to this list.   Anyone
>> still using them?   I've drilled seed, spread manure, mowed, cut hay, baled
>> hay, plugged pastures and drive posts - all in the last 3-4 months.   All
>> with my 1958/9 Ford 861D.  I had to put front tires on this year but other
>> than that it has been solid and reliable.
>> 
>> Of course all that was between work shifts of about 12 -14 hours a day(with
>> commute) and raising alpacas .   So my dinner has been 2 12oz portions
>> about
>> 10Pm.  Not sure of the health benefits there other than I sleep well and I
>> don't have to take ibuprofen.
>> 
>> Spencer Yost
>> 
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