[AT] Healthy Eating, was "Just checking"

Thu Nov 5 15:31:40 PST 2015

On Thu, Nov 5, 2015 at 5:43 PM, Dean VP <deanvp at att.net> wrote:

> A lot of the old wives tales that go around about what food we should eat
> and shouldn't eat is similar
> to the whole Global Warming contrived issue.  Much of the data had been
> ignored, twisted or falsified
> for personal gain.

Not getting into the GW thing, but I wholeheartedly agree with the data
twisting comment.

>   What we eat and how it is cooked go hand and hand. That is overlooked.
> The general
> statement that fish is good for us never mentions how it should be cooked.

Who's doing the mentioning?  You might be listening to the wrong people.

>   The cholesterol story has
> changed over the years based on what the most recent study shows and what
> their agenda might be.
>

Hold on.  Can't let this one go.  You are not capturing what's really going
on.  The most current information on cholesterol is NOT based on the "most
recent" study.  That implies a flip-flop every time a single study comes up
with contradictory info.  The ONLY place that is true is in the mass
media.  They love to grab a scientific study, then dumb it down and
scandalize it as much as possible for public consumption.   For real
medical science, what is actually happening is that thousands of new
studies have been conducted since the cholesterol scare of the '70s and
'80s, and the well-run studies help to evolve the understanding, which has
come a LONG way since those days.

> Remember when Margarine was so much better for us than butter. Now butter
> is back in vogue.

Only "vogue" based on the mass media reports.  See comments above on
cholesterol.  Butter is back because the problems with margarine are far
better understood, and the supposed problems with butter are now understood
to be non problems.  Evolution of understanding.  It's how science works.

> Then the
> UN comes out with this latest scare. Processed food is dangerous and
> causes cancer.  If one really
> reads the whole thing their studies show that there is a 1% increase. 1%
> .... Give me a break.   The
> error rate in their study is higher than that.

AGREED!!  That study was total crap.

>
>
>
> Dean VP
> Snohomish, WA
>
> If we can employ guards with guns to protect money, we can and should
> employ guards with guns to
> protect people. Bernard Goldberg.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com [mailto:
> at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of
> Stephen Offiler
> Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2015 12:41 PM
> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
> Subject: Re: [AT] Healthy Eating, was "Just checking"
>
> On Thu, Nov 5, 2015 at 3:08 PM, Dean VP <deanvp at att.net> wrote:
>
> > Relative to taste, I might not live as long but grain fed beef outshines
> > range fed beef by a huge
> > amount. One can usually tell by how much marbling is in the beef. Huge
> > difference.  Need a little of
> > that fat to grease the skids.
>
>
> I am buying pasture-raised beef from a local farmer and the taste is
> fantastic.  I have not done an apples-to-apples taste-test with grain fed.
> Happy with the local pasture stuff as-is.
>
>
>
> > McDonalds continued to remove all the so called "bad stuff" from their
> > hamburgers until they satisfied the do-gooders.  Only one
> > problem....customers quit buying hem.  Their
> > hamburgers didn't taste good any more.
>
>
> I think it's more complicated than that.  Just one of a variety of
> additional factors is that McDonald's started using "pink slime" in the
> burgers.  If you don't know what that is, Google it.
>
>
>
> > Is this the year that eggs are bad for us or are they good for
> > us this year?
>
>
> Eggs are good.  The big scare on eggs has always been cholesterol, and that
> myth has been entrenched for about four decades, leading to the confusion
> Dean VP states. Bottom line, cholesterol contained in the food you eat is a
> slightly different molecule than the cholesterol manufactured and used
> within the human body for a large number of critical functions.
>
>
> >   Why are fish good for us if they are deep fat fried?
>
>
> Who said that?  Most deep fat fried foods aren't good, in general.  Depends
> on the type of fat, too.  Vegetable, polyunsaturated fats are bad because
> they break down and form harmful compounds quickly in heat; whereas
> saturated fats (good old lard) is very heat-stable and a better choice for
> frying. Thing is, nobody is using lard anymore.
>
>
>   How are vegetables good for us if
> > they are boiled and the nutriments go down the drain?
>
>
> Er... um... don't boil them?  Even if you do, and throw the nutrients down
> the drain, they are STILL a hell of a lot better for you than, say, a
> couple slices of white bread or a Snickers bar.
>
>
>
> > Moderation is the key in all things.  Refill the
> > 6 pak so it lasts longer.
> >
> >
> > Dean VP
> > Snohomish, WA
> >
> > If we can employ guards with guns to protect money, we can and should
> > employ guards with guns to
> > protect people. Bernard Goldberg.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com [mailto:
> > at-bounces at lists.antique-tractor.com] On Behalf Of
> > Stephen Offiler
> > Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2015 7:00 AM
> > To: Antique tractor email discussion group
> > Subject: Re: [AT] Healthy Eating, was "Just checking"
> >
> > Thanks!  Short answer is Kerrygold brand.  Imported from Ireland, where
> the
> > entire cattle industry is done different from here.  It's ALL pasture in
> > Ireland.
> >
> > http://kerrygoldusa.com/products
> >
> > Kerrygold shows up in Whole Foods as well as normal everyday grocery
> > stores, at least true where I live (CT/RI area).
> >
> > Then, even better answer, would be to check out a local farmer's market,
> if
> > you have one.  We do.  In fact there's a raw milk dairy farm pretty much
> > walking distance from my home and we're quite friendly with the farmer.
> > Doesn't help you, but, figured I'd mention it.
> >
> > http://www.buttercupfarmct.com/
> >
> > They sell raw milk and they're working on butter and yogurt.  Building a
> > big new barn right now.
> >
> >
> > SO
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Nov 5, 2015 at 9:36 AM, Gayle Chew <gorrchew at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Stephen, loved your post. Where do you find that good butter, short of
> > > making it yourself?
> > >
> > > Ron & Gayle
> > > On the CASE
> > >
> > > On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 6:39 AM, Herb Metz <metz-h.b at comcast.net>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Thanks Stephen for you good post; hope you don't mind my changing the
> > > > title.
> > > >
> > > > From: Stephen Offiler
> > > > Sent: Monday, November 02, 2015 10:16 AM
> > > > To: Antique tractor email discussion group
> > > > Subject: Re: [AT] Just checking....
> > > > My wife and I are both working people with long commutes; we're out
> of
> > > the
> > > > house 10-12 hours on weekdays.  She only likes to cook when the mood
> > > > strikes, and I never like it much, so we have developed some habits
> to
> > > eat
> > > > healthy and fairly low hassle.
> > > > Veggies should feature prominently... that's where a lot of nutrients
> > are
> > > > hidden.  You can wrap a sweet potato in a paper towel and nuke it in
> > > about
> > > > 5 minutes, no mess, no extra utensils or dishes to wash.  In fact all
> > > > starchy veggies work pretty well in the microwave, take squash for
> > > another
> > > > example.  Frozen veggies can be thawed and heated in the nuke in a
> > > covered
> > > > glass dish, very easy.  Greens like baby spinach, arugula, kale, and
> > > mixed
> > > > lettuce can be purchased... they look horribly expensive at the store
> > but
> > > > compared to eating out they are dirt-cheap.  We just throw a handful
> of
> > > > greens on a plate and put on some olive oil and vinegar, salt and
> > pepper.
> > > > Takes about 15 seconds.  In season, tomatoes from the garden will be
> > > tossed
> > > > on the greens.  And we grow some of these greens too.  Oh, and
> > avocadoes
> > > > are a frequent addition to that pile of greens.
> > > > Meat... no need to fear red meat, IN MODERATION.  Saturated fats are
> > not
> > > > bad, unlike what the always-wrong media has been telling us for
> > decades.
> > > > There are essential fatty acids ("essential" means you die without
> it)
> > > that
> > > > come from saturated fats.  Red meats as a food group are among the
> > > highest
> > > > in nutrition-per-unit-calorie.  We buy grass-fed beef from a local
> > > farmer,
> > > > and have burgers cooked on the grill a couple times a week.  Grilling
> > > means
> > > > no pots and pans to wash.
> > > > Chicken, we are in a CSA with the local poultry farmer and we have
> more
> > > > chicken than we know what to do with.  We do whole chickens on the
> > grill
> > > > using the "beer can" method.  Google it.
> > > > Fish, about once a week, we buy the good stuff from a fish market or
> > > Whole
> > > > Foods.  Wild-caught not farmed.  Again done on grill, especially
> salmon
> > > > which you cook skin-side down on foil so the oils don't drip into the
> > > > flames.
> > > > Eggs:  GOOD FOR YOU!  Like the saturated fat in red meat, the
> > cholesterol
> > > > in eggs is NOT bad for you.  Dietary cholesterol isn't even in the
> same
> > > > form as the cholesterol in the bloodstream.  Eggs are "nature's
> vitamin
> > > > pill" full of vitamins that are hard to find in other places.  We get
> > our
> > > > eggs from the farmette across the street, free-range chickens.  Dark
> > > orange
> > > > yolks, very different from mass-produced eggs.
> > > > Salt:  if you're eating like I describe above, there's not much salt.
> > We
> > > > use Himalayan Sea Salt, which is pinkish to brownish in color due to
> > high
> > > > mineral content.  Looks crazy-expensive on the shelf but that $10
> > bottle
> > > is
> > > > probably about 15 months old  and only half-gone.
> > > > Another quick and easy one is rice & beans.  Regular old rice, not
> > Minute
> > > > Rice, cooked with plenty of real butter (from grass-fed cows... it is
> > > very
> > > > different in color and flavor from mass-produced butter) then when
> the
> > > rice
> > > > is about halfway done open up a can of red beans or black beans or
> > > > whatever, drain, and toss them in.  The beans are warm when the rice
> is
> > > > cooked.  Serve with salsa and some greens on the side.  Soak the
> dirty
> > > pan
> > > > overnight ;-)
> > > > Not zero, but, very small amounts of bread and pasta in our diet.
> > > > SO
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Many people would like to Eat Healthy; what Stephen has described
> above
> > > is
> > > > not
> > > > that difficult or expensive. As Barbara and I sit down to enjoy such
> > > meals,
> > > > we feel
> > > > better (psychologically) even before we eat knowing that we are
> eating
> > > > healthier
> > > > (than years ago). Preparing such meals sometimes requires more
> planning
> > > and
> > > > sometimes more work, so I do the cleanup (unless I have something
> that
> > > > needs
> > > > attention real soon). This 'feeling better' continues through the
> meal,
> > > and
> > > > after.
> > > > Oh, a tip on that dirty pan; all it needs is 1/4" of water and decent
> > > > fitting lid
> > > > and in the morning any deposits have softened and will come off with
> > one
> > > > wipe
> > > > of a paper towel and will go into the waste basket (not the septic
> > > system).
> > > > Enjoy. Herb(GA)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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