[AT] Massey Harris

Sun Mar 22 14:11:29 PDT 2015

Steve - I'm sure some of the reason was for marketing, although it's
possible that the early Twin Power tractors had some legitimate weaknesses
in the drive train.  I believe Twin Power was introduced with the
Challenger tractors, and I am much less familiar with those.

Belt work was a big part of this marketing, and here in the mid-atlantic
one of those belt jobs was filling silo.  I recall and old timer friend
telling me stories about farmers getting together to help each other fill
silo.  Part of this activity involved trying to feed the chopper/blower
fast enough to bog down each other's tractors.  Of course there were
bragging rights if your tractor held up and could not be bogged down...

On Sun, Mar 22, 2015 at 4:51 PM, Stephen Offiler <soffiler at gmail.com> wrote:

> I am kind of curious why not Twin Power all the time (which then wouldn’t
> be twin, I guess).  But extra power only in road gear and on the belt sort
> of implies something about the machine that can’t handle that extra power
> doing field work.
>
>
> SO
>
> > On Mar 22, 2015, at 4:36 PM, Vaughn Miller <vemiller at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Tyler - I believe road gear speed was in the neighborhood of 16-18 miles
> > per hour.  Twin Power would be automatically engaged when shifting into
> > fourth gear.
> >
> > On Sun, Mar 22, 2015 at 4:05 PM, Tyler Juranek <tylerpolkaman at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Hey Vaughn,
> >> How fast will it go?
> >> Do you have to have the double power engaged in road gear?
> >> Take Care,
> >> Tyler Juranek
> >> IA
> >>
> >> On 3/22/15, Vaughn Miller <vemiller at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> Hey Charlie, I failed to mention that Twin Power was also used in road
> >>> gear.  There is linkage going to the governor to bump it open.  The
> >> linkage
> >>> moved by either shifting into fourth gear, or by moving the shift lever
> >> to
> >>> a special position that doesn't engage any gear but moves the linkage.
> >> The
> >>> shift pattern is marked "B" for this position.
> >>>
> >>> I assume the idea was to prevent using Twin Power when using ground
> >>> engaging implements in the field, but allow it on the belt and in the
> >> road.
> >>>
> >>> Vaughn
> >>>
> >>> On Sun, Mar 22, 2015 at 3:18 PM, charlie hill <
> >> charliehill at embarqmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Vaughn you might have just answered a question that
> >>>> has been bugging me for 50 years.  When I was a kid
> >>>> a farmer down the road had a Massie Harris.  I didn't have
> >>>> much contact with them and never saw the tractor up close
> >>>> but one of their tenant farmers described something he
> >>>> called a "doubler" which was undoubtedly his own name for it.
> >>>> Anyway it was some way that he could open the governor.
> >>>> He used it in road gear and that tractor would fly compared to
> >>>> most others.
> >>>>
> >>>> Can you tell me if that is possible and if so exactly how the
> >>>> Twin Power/double operated?  What I mean by that is how did
> >>>> the tractor operator get the Twin Power in gear?   What lever did
> >>>> you pull, etc?
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks
> >>>>
> >>>> Charlie
> >>>>
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From: Tyler Juranek
> >>>> Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2015 2:47 PM
> >>>> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
> >>>> Subject: Re: [AT] Massey Harris
> >>>>
> >>>> Hi Vaughn,
> >>>> Thanks for the information! I assume they have a very very low
> >>>> production number?
> >>>> I found on the internet that they did have electric start, but not
> >>>> sure about lights.
> >>>> Do you own one?
> >>>> I'm sure parts for them are high these days!
> >>>> Take Care.
> >>>> Tyler Juranek
> >>>>
> >>>> On 3/22/15, Vaughn Miller <vemiller at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>> Hey Tyler,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The 101 Senior had the F226 Continental, and was considered a 3 plow
> >>>>> tractor.  Massey had a feature they called "Twin Power" which opened
> >> up
> >>>>> the
> >>>>> governor to allow the engine to run at higher RPM's  when using the
> >>>>> belt.
> >>>>> These had no hydraulics, but could be equipped with a mechanical
> power
> >>>>> cultivator lift.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> As always, value is tough to say.  These are not the more  common
> >>>>> tractors,
> >>>>> nor are they the most sought after.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Vaughn Miller
> >>>>> PA
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Sun, Mar 22, 2015 at 1:45 PM, Tyler Juranek
> >>>>> <tylerpolkaman at gmail.com>
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Hi all,
> >>>>>> Anybody know anything about the Massey Harris 101 Senior tractor?
> >>>>>> I was visiting with a family friend and he said he remembers the
> >>>>>> smooth sound of the contental engine it had.
> >>>>>> Anybody know what the value of one of these is?
> >>>>>> Thanks!
> >>>>>> Take Care,
> >>>>>> Tyler Juranek
> >>>>>> IA
> >>>>>>
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