[AT] Oil dry / Rural King / And even more O.T. stuff

Dave Rotigel rotigel at me.com
Mon Mar 2 09:05:42 PST 2015


Hi Bo,
	I've probably used a drag saw at shows on and off for 12-15 years now. That live oak was one of the nicest logs I have ever cut up. Almost a shame to not cut it into boards!
	The slab were hauled away just about as fast as I could cut them and MANY either asked how much they were, or if they could pay me for one. I've never, over the years, charged for any of them. However, on the way home yesterday I did begin to think about it a bit. Perhaps next year I'll put up a "DONATION" can indicating that all donations will be sent to the Wounded Warrior Project. I'll have to think a lot more about that!
	Dave
PS, The Zolfo show was GREAT as usual. Many tractors AND engines, which makes it a good all round show!
PPS, It was a bit cool several days (only into the lower 70's) but I can live with that!
PPS, The log was donated (and set up waiting for me when I arrived) by the county--it's good to have friends!

On Mar 2, 2015, at 8:59 AM, Bo Hinch wrote:

> Dave , that is some fine looking slabs that you cut off .
> 
> On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 7:33 AM, Dave Rotigel <rotigel at me.com> wrote:
> 
>> Yes, I made national news AND was quoted (and got about 5 minutes of
>> "fame") by Rush Limbaugh on his radio show. I don't listen to him much
>> these days. He has become a bit too LIBERAL for me anymore! AND Rush knows
>> nothing about old tractors or engines!
>>        Dave
>> 
>> On Mar 1, 2015, at 9:37 PM, jtchall at nc.rr.com wrote:
>> 
>>> I had to go back and look at that one. The one on the tailgate, it
>> triggered
>>> memories of you "volunteering" in years past, I believe you made the news
>>> even for your efforts!
>>> 
>>> John Hall
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Dave Rotigel
>>> Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2015 9:12 PM
>>> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
>>> Subject: Re: [AT] Oil dry / Rural King / And even more O.T. stuff
>>> 
>>> Yes, it is my truck. How did you know? Were you able to read the metal
>> sign
>>> on the ground against the E-Z up leg?
>>> Dave
>>> 
>>> On Mar 1, 2015, at 9:01 PM, jtchall at nc.rr.com wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Looks like you had fun! The sawdust looks pretty fine too, would
>> certainly
>>>> make a good oil absorbent (see, now we are back on topic).
>>>> 
>>>> That has GOT to be your truck in the background!
>>>> 
>>>> John Hall
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Dave Rotigel
>>>> Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2015 8:37 PM
>>>> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
>>>> Subject: Re: [AT] Oil dry / Rural King / And even more O.T. stuff
>>>> 
>>>> Hi John,
>>>> Take a look at
>>>> http://www.smokstak.com/forum/showthread.php?t=143333&page=2
>>>> (near the bottom and posted by green 416) and you can see the sawdust on
>>>> both sides of the log I worked on for the past 4 days.
>>>> Dave
>>>> 
>>>> On Mar 1, 2015, at 7:59 PM, jtchall at nc.rr.com wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Didn't realize that about a drag saw!
>>>>> 
>>>>> John
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Dave Rotigel
>>>>> Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2015 6:56 PM
>>>>> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
>>>>> Subject: Re: [AT] Oil dry / Rural King / And even more O.T. stuff
>>>>> 
>>>>> Both the crosscut and  the drag saw cut in both directions. The
>>>>> configuration of the rakers change (direction) in the middle of the
>> blade
>>>>> on
>>>>> both kinds of saws.
>>>>> Dave
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Mar 1, 2015, at 7:53 AM, jtchall at nc.rr.com wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Do crosscut saws cut in both directions? I would imagine drag saws
>> only
>>>>>> cut
>>>>>> in one and operate similar to a power hacksaw.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Bring some sunshine back with you and drop it off in NC when you pass
>>>>>> through. We've had this white stuff on the ground for over 10 days and
>>>>>> are
>>>>>> having freezing rain this morning. Normal for us is to have 8" of snow
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> completely disappears in 3 days.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> John Hall
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: Dave Rotigel
>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2015 9:07 PM
>>>>>> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AT] Oil dry / Rural King / And even more O.T. stuff
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Yes, I do sharpen the blades myself. The BEST information I've come
>>>>>> across
>>>>>> is at http://www.bchw.org/Tech%20tips/FilerDVD.htm I think that is
>> the
>>>>>> link
>>>>>> I posted to the list some time ago. About 98.68419% of the information
>>>>>> there
>>>>>> transfers directly from sharpening a crosscut saw to a drag saw blade.
>>>>>> That
>>>>>> series of videos (and now a fair amt. of trial and error) and I'm able
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> do
>>>>>> an OK job on the drag saw blades. Typically it takes me about 3 hours
>> to
>>>>>> sharpen a blade that has been used and poorly "sharpened" over the
>>>>>> years.
>>>>>> I'm able to resharpen one that I've done , and then used for s show,
>> in
>>>>>> less
>>>>>> than an hour. In either case, it's something I really enjoy, so the
>> time
>>>>>> spent becomes not much of an issue.
>>>>>> Dave
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Feb 28, 2015, at 8:30 PM, jtchall at nc.rr.com wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> So have you learned to sharpen them yourself? I guess its pretty much
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> same as a crosscut saw. I believe you shared a link on how to sharpen
>>>>>>> them
>>>>>>> once.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> John
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: Dave Rotigel
>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2015 6:49 PM
>>>>>>> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AT] Oil dry / Rural King / And even more O.T. stuff
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi John,
>>>>>>> I was up to about 23 minutes on each saw cut today! The blade is
>>>>>>> getting
>>>>>>> real dull, but I was too lazy to put another blade on. Don't think
>> I'll
>>>>>>> cut
>>>>>>> at all tomorrow--just pack up and leave. Thus, one sharp blade got me
>>>>>>> through about 10 feet of log at about 2" per cut. I can live with
>> that
>>>>>>> given
>>>>>>> how darn hard that live oak is!
>>>>>>> Dave
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Feb 28, 2015, at 7:02 AM, jtchall at nc.rr.com wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I also observed many folks had a much more keen interest in watching
>>>>>>>> saws
>>>>>>>> run compared to other equipment we were demonstrating.  Some because
>>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>> were just so darn loud, but most because sawing wood was something
>>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>> could relate to. About even in interest was running a stationary
>>>>>>>> baler,
>>>>>>>> there's tons of non-farm guys that helped load hay at some point in
>>>>>>>> time
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> can therefore relate.
>>>>>>>> Threshers, silage cutters, grist mills, corn shredders---the pool of
>>>>>>>> interested folks grows much smaller. Partly because they have NO
>> idea
>>>>>>>> what
>>>>>>>> they are looking at and still don't even when you try to explain it.
>>>>>>>> The
>>>>>>>> other reason, there just aren't many folks alive that ever saw this
>>>>>>>> stuff
>>>>>>>> used when it was new. At 84 years old, my dad never helped run a
>>>>>>>> thresher
>>>>>>>> until he was about 65. He saw a few folks do it when he was young.
>> His
>>>>>>>> dad
>>>>>>>> replaced a wooden hand fed Geiser thresherwith a Massey pull type
>>>>>>>> combine
>>>>>>>> right around the start of WWII.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I will say it is easy to spot a good Southern cook, she's the lady
>> who
>>>>>>>> inspects the final product coming out of a grist mill and gives you
>>>>>>>> her
>>>>>>>> $.02
>>>>>>>> as to the quality of the grits or corn meal you are grinding.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> John
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>> From: Dave Rotigel
>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, February 27, 2015 9:14 PM
>>>>>>>> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AT] Oil dry / Rural King / And even more O.T. stuff
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hi John,
>>>>>>>> The 16' live oak log was about 24 inches at the butt when I started
>> on
>>>>>>>> Wed.
>>>>>>>> I'm down to about 7' now and my guess on the dia. now is about 20".
>>>>>>>> That
>>>>>>>> live oak is the hardest "stuff" I've ever cut. It takes about 18
>>>>>>>> minutes
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> make one cut. I go through a poplar log of that size in about 7
>>>>>>>> minutes
>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>> home in PA. On the other hand, 18 minutes is about the time it takes
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> down
>>>>>>>> a 16 oz Old Mil, so it's not all bad!
>>>>>>>> Dave
>>>>>>>> PS, Like you, I find that everything I cut is hauled away. (Tables,
>>>>>>>> Clocks,
>>>>>>>> Cutting Boards or whatever.) I had one woman ask me if I could speed
>>>>>>>> up
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> saw because she didn't have the time to wait around. I smiled and
>>>>>>>> asked
>>>>>>>> her
>>>>>>>> if she would like a cup of coffee. I think she must have been from
>>>>>>>> Naples!
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Feb 27, 2015, at 8:34 PM, jtchall at nc.rr.com wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Running your drag saw I assume? How big of a log were you cutting?
>>>>>>>>> Years
>>>>>>>>> ago
>>>>>>>>> when my dad was able, we used to demonstrate our 2 man chainsaws. A
>>>>>>>>> nice
>>>>>>>>> 24-30" Poplar log made for one heck of a display. A lot of folks
>>>>>>>>> wanted
>>>>>>>>> those cuts for crafts. One fellow in particular was going to make
>>>>>>>>> clocks
>>>>>>>>> out
>>>>>>>>> of them.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> John Hall
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>> From: Dave Rotigel
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, February 27, 2015 7:59 PM
>>>>>>>>> To: Antique tractor email discussion group
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AT] Oil dry / Rural King / And even more O.T. stuff
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I have been at the Zolfo show (FL) for three days now cutting up a
>>>>>>>>> 18'
>>>>>>>>> log
>>>>>>>>> into 2" pieces. Lots of sawdust there for anyone who wants to use
>> it
>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>> "oil dry"!
>>>>>>>>> Dave
>>>>>>>>> PS, GREAT Show and ONLY a little rain!
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
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